I see. By whom, do you think? And why? On 12/21/05, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Spinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn > > Scott A. Stewart > ColdFusion Developer > > GNSI > 11820 Parklawn Dr > Rockville, MD 20852 > (301) 770-9610 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:47 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [politics] nobody else seems to be concerned > > US secret spying captured some domestic calls -report > 21 Dec 2005 04:56:35 GMT > > Source: Reuters > WASHINGTON, Dec 20 (Reuters) - A program U.S. President George W. Bush > ordered allowing warrantless spying on Americans with suspected terrorist > ties unintentionally captured a small number of purely domestic > communications, The New York Times reported on Tuesday. > > The newspaper, citing unidentified officials, said the calls were snagged > despite a White House requirement that one end of the intercepted > conversations take place on foreign soil. > > The officials were cited as saying that the National Security Agency's > interception of communications between people within the United States was > apparently accidental, caused by technical glitches in determining whether > a > communication was in fact "international." > > There was no immediate comment from the White House. > > Bush and senior administration officials have argued that the policy of > authorizing -- without court orders -- eavesdropping on international > phone > calls and e-mails by Americans suspected of links to terrorism was legal > and > necessary to help defend the country after the Sept. 11 attacks. > > The White House has sought to play down the impact on civil liberties, > arguing the program was narrow in scope and that key congressional leaders > were briefed about it. > > A 1978 law, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, makes it illegal to > spy on U.S. citizens in the United States without court approval. > > Officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, would not discuss the > number > of accidental intercepts but the total was thought to represent a very > small > fraction of the total number of wiretaps authorized without court > approval, > The Times said. > > National security and telecommunications experts said that even if the NSA > stuck closely to the rules set by the White House, the logistics of the > program may make it difficult to ensure that the rules are being followed, > the newspaper reported. > > With roaming cell phones, internationally routed e-mail and voice-over > Internet technology, "it's often tough to find out where a call started > and > ended," Robert Morris, a former NSA official, told the newspaper. "The NSA > is good at it but it's difficult even for them. Where a call actually came > from is often a mystery." > > http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N203307.htm > > > On 12/21/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So do you think the Times was: > > 1) trying to sell a book > > 2) trying to stop the Patriot Act > > 3) all of the above > > > > COURT SAYS U.S. SPY AGENCY CAN TAP OVERSEAS MESSAGES > > By DAVID BURNHAM, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES (NYT) 1051 words > > Published: November 7, 1982 > > > > A Federal appeals court has ruled that the National Security Agency > > may lawfully intercept messages between United States citizens and > > people overseas, even if there is no cause to believe the Americans > > are foreign agents, and then provide summaries of these messages to > > the Federal Bureau of Investigation. > > > > Because the National Security Agency is among the largest and most > > secretive intelligence agencies and because millions of electronic > > messages enter and leave the United States each day, lawyers familiar > > with the intelligence agency consider the decision to mark a > > significant increase in the legal authority of the Government to keep > > track of its citizens. > > > > > > On 12/21/05, Dana wrote: > > > hell no. I think the government should filter every email I send. > > > > > > > > > > >
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