In 1982 the Federal court ruled that a warrant wasn't needed to turn it over to the FBI, the NSA acquired the information, and handed it over to the FBI which then handed it over to other law enforcement agencies.
As with the Ames thing, they searched his home without a warrant, then used the information against him and convicted him. In both cases a search was ordered without a warrant and in the end the US citizen was charged, and the evidence gained from warrant-less search was allowed in court. Now, the FISA law that setup the FISA court states that the Executive Branch can order warrant-less wiretaps for up to one year, if it is longer than one year then they must obtain a warrant. The he-did-it-too argument is not really my point, the point there was that the courts seemed to have no problem with it 20 years ago, why will they have a problem with it today? > -----Original Message----- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:09 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [politics] nobody else seems to be concerned > > A few thoughts: > > 1.) The shoot-the-messenger and he-did-it-too arguments are pointless. > For example, should we ignore information we get from terrorists > because they're terrorists? That is, should we say, "look how bad > that person is therefore their information should be tossed out"? > > 2.) In talking with some people about this I've heard the following > phrase is the key: > > "and then provide summaries of these messages to the Federal Bureau of > Investigation." > > Put another way, the NSA can gather the information but only the FBI > can analyze it and they must get a warrant to do that and it must be > part of their jurisdiction. That's the tenor of what I've been > hearing anyway. > > As to whether the President can order this, it's going to be tricky > from what I've heard. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:189605 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
