I was looking for a nice simple reference for the Kerry/urban link and
only found this. Assuming this gentleman has his facts right the
cities were expected to go for Kerry but in fact went for Bush,
perhaps because suburbs were counted as urban, perhaps for more
sinister reasons. I personally believe, based on what I saw here, that
there was massive fraud in this election, but that is not my point in
posting this, just that this analysis, which seems pretty detailed and
researched, says that the cities did not go Kerry.

http://www.retropoll.org/web_of_circumstance.htm

Dana

On 1/4/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I was a poor blue-collar worker I knew many Democrats, as I moved
> to white collar or I saw a change. I still see the difference in the
> poorer people I just don't spend as much time with them.
> To give you an idea of the incomes in NY:
>
>                median  | per capita | poverty  | total pop
> New York City
> Manahattan      47,030  | 42,922         | 20%  | 1,562,723
> Brooklyn                32,135  | 16,775         | 25.1%        | 2,475,290
> Queens          42,439  | 19,222         | 14.6%        | 2,237,216
> Bronx           27,611  | 13,959         | 30.7%        | 1,365,536
> Staten Island   55,039  | 23,905         | 10%  |   463,314
>
> The surrounding subburbs
> Nassau          72,030  | 32,151         | 5.2%         | 1,339,641
> Westchester     63,582  | 36,726         | 8.8% |   942,444
> Rockland                67,971  | 28,082         | 9.5%         |   293,626
>
> http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/maps/new_york_map.html
>
> So yes there are plenty of rich people but there's many more that are poor
>
>
> On 1/4/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> > Hmm, I could be, but here's the point:
> >
> > NYC is full of Trumps and other rich business folk (as much or more
> > than just about any other city) as well as normal folks, and they
> > voted for Kerry.  So, while you may know lots of Bushies, the city
> > went Kerry which is consistent with my cities for Kerry experience.
>
> 

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