The contention that health care costs should be required is where I think
the point falls apart.  We are supposed to be about personal responsibility
and individual rights.  Therefore, requiring any company to provide health
care should be wrong.  If Wal-Mart was unable to find employees that would
work for their wages and benefits, they would have to change their model, as
they are always able to find those employees, they don't need to change
their model.

Its really quite simple to me.

To be honest, the main reason that I think we have such a disconnect from
Dana and Larry is because we grew up in the states which has a different
cultural impetus than the United States. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:16 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart
> 
> > G-Money wrote:
> > I don't know what Dana's points are, and I didn't read the 
> Penn study. 
> > Maybe instead of throwing around "social responsibility" 
> and all the 
> > things that encompasses...we should discuss the issues more 
> pointedly.
> 
> From what I can tell, Dana's point is that  we need to 
> consider the total cost to society of business assuming that 
> we'd all agree that society should provide health care and 
> other services to the poor.
> 
> If that's true, I believe she's saying there's an economic 
> basis for laws regulating business.  That is, these 
> regulations will lower overall societal services costs.
> 
> She's pointed to many economic theories and studies which 
> support this contention and is pushing them forward asking us 
> to disprove them.
> 
> I'm pointing out that we needn't look to studies as there's 
> whole countries that implement some form of her model with 
> mixed results. 
> Further I'm saying that if we were building a new country 
> from scratch this might work, it's not ever going to work in the US.
> 
> 

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