She simply does not know what she is talking about. While the specific
mechanism is not know, it does appear that homosexuality is
physiologically based. Or rather should I say gender preference is
physiolgically based. Gays cannot help being gay any more that blacks
cannot help being black.

We've had this argument before on this list, just do a search, one of
the things I presented was a scholar.google seach that turned up over
600 studies that supported the physiological basis of homosexuality. I
found less than 10 that contradicted that theory. Of those 8 studies,
they were so poorly done as to be worthless.

Another approach is to look at so called conversion therapy. I tried
to do a meta-analysis of it in grad school. First off all but a very
few studies that showed some conversion were adequate - no followup,
self identification, really weird operational definitions etc. Of the
methodologically adequate studies, almost all showed that conversion
therapies did not work. At best a few studies that tried negative
conditioning showed some effect, but again no followup. The best I
could conclude about these studies was that all they did was condition
the victims against any sexual response.

The religiously based therapies were even worse. There was no data
available. I tried contacting several of the churches and
organizations that sponsored these approaches. No data was available.
The best I could figure was that these therapies operated by guilt and
harrassment. No followup, no independent assessment of program
effectiveness.

As for being natural or unnatural. Homosexuality is common in the wild
and with farm animals. There are the infamous Stanley Park seagulls in
Vancouver, BC, for instance.

I could go on about it, but I am sure that there will be others who
will. The research evidence is available to show that it is just as
natural as being a heterosexual.

larry

On 1/22/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My wife and I watched 'Crash' last night and then got into a
> discussion about prejudice.  That discussion led to talking about some
> of her friends that refuse to go see 'brokenback mountain' and don't
> want it shown.   I called them out as being prejudiced since they
> haven't even seen the movie to know if the subject matter is treated
> tastefully or not.
>
> My wife argued that it wasn't being prejudice against gays since
> homosexuality was immoral.  I countered with the fact that this was
> based only on someones beliefs.

--
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment;
and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your
opinion.

Edmond Burke

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