Dude seriously, get your head out of your ass. The Bush administration has had more warrants denied than any other administration. The Bush administration has repeatedly been called to the mat for civil rights violations. The Bush administration has already pushed the Patriot Act into being used to combat drug dealers.
Here is where I disconnect with you and Gruss both. NO ONE should have this ability. You should not be able to spy against American Citizens without a warrant. Period. I don't care ho they are and hat they did. He who would give liberty for safety deserves neither. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:11 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: States Rights: was(RE: [signs of sanity] MD no > longer subsidizing Walmart) > > Your process is a judge and you've proven to me you have > blind faith in anyone with a black rob. It's kind of scary > how all your trust will go in to one or three people when I'm > trusting dozens. These wiretaps are supervised and constantly > reviewed. The President himself reviews the program every 30 > days. This is not Watergate, this has gone through all the > national security departments and is watched over extensively. > > On 1/21/06, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Well that's just it since all government is people. I wish I could > > share Sam's blind faith in people, but I'm more of the > Reagan mindset: > > "trust but verify". I don't trust people, I trust process. > > > > This president has gone to extrodinary lengths to consolidate > > executive power. Example: he's attempting to remove the judical > > branch's check in the wiretapping case. > > > > This is an attempt to end run the process. Once there's no process > > then all you've got left is trust in people and that's not > enough for > > me no matter how much I worship the President. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:193708 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
