Back home in the south I could take you to numerous households where grandma, mom and teenaged kids all received government assistance in some form at some time. They may not all be getting it at the same time, but it is always their first choice of income.
When they start taxing prostitutes and crack dealers, I'll consider them part of the economy. On 1/28/06, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There WERE a lot of multigeneration welfare families. Kinda tough to get > multigenerational anymore with a five-year time limit. > > I'll grant you that looking for the crack pipe is opting out of society, but > if that is what is going on then what is called for is foster care and an > offer of a trip to detox. NOT any kind of government subsidy. I also suspect > that the crack smoker is in some way participating in the economy if they are > financing a habit. Most likely prostitution if they are female. > > > I've met them. I met them in my neighborhood, at the family > > gatherings, at the Rape Crisis center where I volunteered for many > > years, in the streets of Watts where I worked for several years with > > a > > literacy program. > > > > Yes, there are a lot of poor people out there who are 2nd, 3rd or > > even > > 4th generation welfare who have no idea how else to live. They need > > help. They don't need handouts without accountability. The blame is > > on the government, not the recipients. > > > > I'm not talking about those who want help and if offered it will > > expend the effort necessary, I'm talking about those who refuse to do > > anything to help themselves or their children. > > > > Any one of them who gets up in the morning (or more likely, the > > afternoon, and doesn't do anything to support or care for their > > children is opting out of the economy as anything other than a > > consumer, whether their choice of phrase is "today, I will refuse to > > participate in the economy" or "where is my crack pipe". > > > > >01/28/06, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > you know -- I spent several years working on the wrong side of the > > tracks in Washington DC, which is an inner city if there ever was one, > > and I don't think I *ever* met anyone who got up in the morning and > > said "today, I will refuse to participate in the economy!" > > > > > > ;) No offense,but what I see here is a bunch of people pointing > > fingers at people they have not met. That said, I do think that > > welfare reform as implemented under Clinton was somewhat positive, if > > not totally thought-through. Most of what you guys are proposing as > > solutions -- a time limit for example -- already exists. > > > > > > > Dana > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:194939 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
