Really, you have to ask yourself - why use the cross at all?  It could have 
easily been a couple of guys strapped into electric chairs, hanging on 
ropes, waiting for the guillotine to drop, or in those old contraptions 
where the head and hands are trapped in those wooden things (I don't know 
what it's called).  They used the cross because they wanted to shock 
Christians.  To say otherwise would be either a lie or indicate that the 
artists are so far removed from the world as to not know the symbolic 
meaning of the cross.

- Matt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: The Double standard: Dutch paper refused Jesus cartoons


>> That being said, a simple cross (without the image of Christ) is 
>> generally
>> considered a symbol of Christianity. So any depiction that perverts the
>> symbol of a cross might be considered offensive by Christians. (A common
>> symbol used by self-proclaimed "devil worshippers" is that of an 
>> upside-down
>> cross, which is meant to symbolize a renunciation of Christianity).
>
> So then, a _depiciton_ of a crucifixion, which is what this cartoon
> was, without specific reference to Christ (given the crown o'thorns
> parameter,etc.), could be considered offensive to Christians given
> that it could be considered a "perversion" of the "Cross" symbol.
>
> wow. A bit of a stretch, but considering that I have been told that as
> a Catholic I worship the "dead" Christ not the "risen" Christ because
> Catholics depict the crucifixion in their  imagery rather than the
> empty cross, I guess not all that unfathomable...
>
> sigh...
>
>> > "Crucifixion's a doddle..."
>
> "It's a slow 'orrible death. Takes hours..."
>
> will
> --
>
> "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
> and that would just be unacceptable."
> - Carrie Fisher
>
> 

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