ohhhhhhh you forgot sayid's backstory :)
makes sense now.
he has abondonment issues... no doubt!

tw

On 2/19/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, the problem was it wasn't just a couple of hours, and it wasn't
> just a couple of days.
>
> It was nights for weeks/months. We weren't getting any sleep, the dog
> wasn't getting any sleep, it just wasn't a good thing for anybody.
>
> With him out of the crate he has his settle spot, and he knows when he
> is told to go there he is in trouble.
>
> He was abandoned and left for days in a crate in an apartment with no
> food, water, or way to go to the bathroom. So I am pretty sure that was
> a big part of it.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:13 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Got a Dog! woot!
> >
> > we gave rocky no choice, he cried himself blue for three nights, and
> from
> > there he got over it.  now even with pinot, the new one, she is played
> > with, fed, played with, potty time... then back to her crate until
> momma
> > comes home, and thats about 2 hours.  not a peep.  now, she bitched
> > a fit for a couple days, it was crazy, but once we got her to get over
> > that
> > (mad patience on our end to deal with the yelps) she is all good now.
> >
> > you have to trust it to work, dont give in, and make the dog deal with
> it.
> > they will.  you have to break their will.
> >
> > tw
> >
> > On 2/19/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > We did the timeout thing with the crate for a while, but that made
> it
> > > worse. Ziggy HATED the crate.
> > >
> > > He never liked it, he never considered it his den, or anything the
> > > trainer or vet said was normal when it came to the crate. We would
> put
> > > him in the crate and he would wine, jump, bark, and everything else.
> We
> > > were afraid he was going to hurt himself.
> > >
> > > But he hasn't been in a crate in nearly 6 months now. He is out all
> day
> > > and night. He comes and sleeps next to me on the floor all night.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:37 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Got a Dog! woot!
> > > >
> > > > sometimes its good to crate for a bit during non-playing times.
> > > > we did it with rocky our pit, so that he would get it in his brain
> > > > that we *COULD*
> > > > do it when we wanted and it was an OK thing for him.
> > > >
> > > > not as punishment, just as timeout.
> > > >
> > > > tw
> > > >
> > > > On 2/19/06, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > yeh, since its friggin cold out i havnt taken her on any good
> walks.
> > > > > did get her a backpac & 2 pacable clapsable bowls.
> > > > > but she dosnt know real hiking is coming in a few weeks....
> > > > >
> > > > > so yeh, its probably just frustration of her not wanting to be
> > > outside
> > > > or
> > > > > her being tiocked that i dont walk her in the cold.
> > > > > we only like to crate her at night and when we are out of the
> house.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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