Some of the research I've cited had other distractors as experimental
conditions - just search the archives - and have found that those
distractors, passengers, music, news, etc., have not had the impact on
performance as cell phone use.

larry

On 3/13/06, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey its the current theory. And it fits the empirical
> > data. Also one aberrent case doesn't equal proof.
>
> > Moreover you don't stare at the person the entire
> > conversation.
>
> Right but I don't stare at the hands free phone ever (except when I've
> stopped to dial it). I don't actually have one currently, but I have
> in the past. It seems to me that the studies are measuring what they
> want to measure, but not other things. They say "you pay more
> attention to the cell phone" but neglect other distractors, so it just
> seems rational to me that if they say "you pay more attention to the
> cell phone" but I know about other distractors that the sum total of
> them is going to mean roughly equivalent (or possibly non-measurable)
> amounts of distraction.
>
> Non-measurable, as in, I really don't think there's any way to measure
> the amount of distraction a person experiences when the overreacting
> spouse in the passenger seat screams "YOU'RE GONNA HIT THE CURB!" and
> the driver suddenly jerks the wheel in the other direction. I don't
> think it's possible to either collect enough of the right data to
> measure that on the basis of actual events, or to create a labaratory
> environment in which those conditions can be accurately recreated
> (which most notably would include the driver believing that they
> really are in a potentially dangerous situation and not knowing that
> the other person is going to scream at them).
>
> I suspect also that the statistical analysis of accident reports
> involving cell phones are bogus. I had to sign a waiver for insurance
> at my last job saying how I understood that using hands-free cell
> phones while driving was more dangerous than bungee jumping while
> stoned. Their evidence appeared to be accident report statistics, and
> I'd be willing to bet that a large number of those are people who got
> rear-ended and then noticed that the person who hit them was on a cell
> phone. The problem being that the person was on the cell phone because
> they picked it up to call someone immediately _after_ the collision
> happened. Aha! That BASTARD wasn't watching where he was going,
> talking on his cell phone! (And probably becoming more and more
> popular to look specifically to check to see if they are using a cell
> phone at the time.)
>
> It's not that I'm saying my own empirical evidence is proof to
> contrary. I just think there's enough empirical evidence to consider
> the studies with extreme skepticism. I just don't think this is a case
> in which the conventional wisdom is reliable, and I think the reasons
> for questioning that wisdom are a) obvious and b) ignored.
>
> Although in retrospect... completely unrelated, but I just had this
> wierd thought to write a scene in the book I've been contemplating
> writing where somebody uses behavioral reinfocement while sitting in
> the passenger seat to manipulate the driver into getting lost or
> possibly crashing the car. :) Neat idea... now I need a motivation for
> someone doing it. :)
>
>
> s. isaac dealey     434.293.6201
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>
> add features without fixtures with
> the onTap open source framework
>
> http://www.fusiontap.com
> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
>
>
> 

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