Are you denying that you stated the following? "Wayne, just be glad your fellow countrymen a generation ago didn't "grow out", otherwise, you'd probably be speaking German."
On 3/17/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's not what I said Larry, you're putting words in my mouth. Trying > to make it look as though I know nothing about WWII, which I would > venture I know more than you do, particulary the European theater. > > I said that if no one in Britain defended the country, Germany would've > had no problem at all. > > > Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > It really is the height of arrogance to assume that if not for the > > American intervention the Germans would have successfully invaded and > > conquered Britain. > > > > Kevin, look at military history and look at what was required for that > > to happen. German did not have what it took to successfully stage an > > invasion of Britain, even immediate after the Dunkirk invasion. They > > did not control the air, and definitely did not control the Channel. > > The plans for Sealion had the German forces go over in river barges. > > Those barges are also known as sitting targets. There's the is the > > matter of resupply, reinforcements etc. > > > > Given the situation, most likely the defeat of Nazi Germany would have > > taken longer, but would have happened. Neither Britain, nor the > > Commonwealth countries were sitting on their asses scratching their > > nether regions. Most likely the war would have taken an extra 3 to 5 > > years and by that time would have involved atomic bombs in the end. > > The US was not the only country with a nuclear program - the British > > also were working on one - and when it was subsumed into Manhattan, > > the Manhattan project got a big boost in uranium refining and > > expertise in electronics. > > > > larry > > > > On 3/17/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I suppose that's better than your height of pussy. I'm guessing the > >> Germans would've improved your families gene pool. > >> > >> You get what you give there Waynie, tit for tat. > >> > >> > >> Wayne Putterill wrote: > >> > >>> Just what the conversation needed . six foot seven of stupid :) > >>> > >>> On 3/17/06, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Wayne, just be glad your fellow countrymen a generation ago didn't "grow > >>>> out", otherwise, you'd probably be speaking German. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Wayne Putterill wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I'm not anti american, I'm anti anyone who makes this world a worse > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> place to be. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I'm not bashing america, my own country had a large part in this > >>>>> disgusting affair. > >>>>> > >>>>> As for calling me antisemetic, anyone who knows me would laugh out > >>>>> loud at that - particularly my jewish friends. > >>>>> > >>>>> I would lay down my life for something I believed in, but I grew out > >>>>> of playing with guns when I started wearing long trousers. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 3/17/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> There were no weapons found, there is no was to ever prove they did or > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> did > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> not exist at this point. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> BTW Why is that "spin"? Are all of my statements true? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How about you stop with America bashing bullshit? And the anti-Semitic > >>>>>> bullshit that you lefties like to spout. It makes me sick. How about > >>>>>> instead of sitting around bitching you actually stand for something, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> with > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> not only your principles, but your life on the line? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Tim Heald > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> 703-300-3911 > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:51 AM > >>>>>> To: CF-Community > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack > >>>>>> > >>>>>> how about you actually deal with the point being discussed instead of > >>>>>> spouting another load of spin. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/17/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> How about the violations of the cease fire? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How about the UN resolutions allowing us to use force to enforce the > >>>>>>> sanctions that were being violated? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How about the attacks against American Aircraft? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How about the fact that oil is actually of vital importance to the > >>>>>>> national security of the United States? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Tim Heald > >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> 703-300-3911 > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:16 AM > >>>>>>> To: CF-Community > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That's what blows all the "this means we were right to go in" > >>>>>>> arguments apart. We had ways of finding out if he did have WMD and the > >>>>>>> UK and US governments didn't let the people involved finish their > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> work. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 3/17/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just a reminder the people on the ground, the UN inspectors who were > >>>>>>>> in Iraq, and the IAEA always said that there were no WMD's. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 3/16/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> When you have your own guys, plus other countries all agreeing > >>>>>>>>> that they have them, then the risk factor seems within the bounds. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you try it and you turn out wrong, then people second guess, > >>>>>>>>> which is good if it makes us better, but when the point is just to > >>>>>>>>> belittle then it doesn't help anybody. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Were mistakes made? Clearly. However I don't think they could have > >>>>>>>>> done this any other way. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:13 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: CF-Community > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dino wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Israel only attacked Iraq when they were building a nuclear > >>>>>>>>>>> reactor > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> express purpose of gaining nukes to attack Israel. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Combine that with what gMoney said and you have: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 1.) If we thought there was a threat, why didn't we just bomb > >>>>>>>>>> the shit out of it w/o having to go in? Lame Answer: mobile labs. > >>>>>>>>>> Apparently REALLY mobile. So mobile they don't exist. Which > >>>>>>>>>> brings > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> us to ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2.) Why don't we know how reliable our intelligence is? From > >>>>>>>>>> the beginning the whole everybody-thought-blah-blah-blah strikes > >>>>>>>>>> me as absolutely moronic. It's called risk management - I know > >>>>>>>>>> they offer classes at HBS on the topic. Bush must've skipped them. > >>>>>>>>>> Whenever you have intelligence you have a reliability factor on > >>>>>>>>>> it. Either ours was low and we went in anyway or we haven't > >>>>>>>>>> learned shit about intelligence in the last 50 years. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:200533 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
