I don't know. I really don't. 

I have to get going -- the place I am in is closing -- but I have enjoyed this 
discussion.

>I haven't read that specific book, but I have read some of his other works.
>
>I agree, I don't think it can be avoided.  I don't think it is happening as
>fast as some people do.  I think it is the natural progression of
>government, it grows and grows in scope until the people are forced to rise
>again and bring it back within it's limits.  We have been lucky in that this
>far the political atmosphere has been like a pendulum, swinging back and
>forth, spending most of it's time in the bearable middle areas.  Now, what
>do we do when it slows and stops, which to me would mean some sort of
>totalitarian state, left or right wing doesn't matter, the result is nearly
>identical fro the average citizen.
>
>Tim
>
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