Why?

Why must your rights supercede the rights of the teacher?

And what, in the Constitution, supports your position?

H.


-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:40 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Religious Freedom


the teacher is welcome to exercise his or her religion as long as it doesnt'
interfere with the rights of others - in this case, it does.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Religious Freedom


> I'm not saying what I believe. I'm asking the question: Why isn't this an
> infringement of the teacher's rights to exercise his or her religion
freely.
> By preventing the teacher from that exercise you are asking the teacher to
> disobey God (per the scenario I drafted). Should the government be able to
> force a person to disobey God?  If so, what is the constitutional argument
> for such as case when the First Amendment says clearly that we have a
right
> to freely follow our religious beliefs as we see fit?
>
> H.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:01 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Religious Freedom
>
>
> So, as a teacher I should be able to teach the children whatever religion
I
> choose in the classroom?
>
> Its the teachers job to present the cirriculum, not to preach religion.
The
> teacher is wrong in two ways:
> 1) not performing duties in their job description (presenting cirriculum)
> and
> 2) infringing on the religious rights of the students
>
>
> Do you really believe a teacher should be allowed to attempt to convert
> students to their religion as part of teaching practices?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Religious Freedom
>
>
> > Which would be a violation of the teacher's First Amendment rights to
> > exercise religious freedom.
> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 9:05 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:59 PM
> > Subject: RE: Religious Freedom
> >
> >
> > > What if, as a public school teacher, you felt called (an vocation), as
> in
> > > commanded by God, to be both a public school teacher and evangelist.
> That
> > if
> > > you were not a public school teacher, and that if you did not read
from
> > the
> > > Bible during class, you would be going against God's will?
> > >
> >
> > Then you should be fired.
> >
> >
> > > H.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:40 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom
> > >
> > >
> > > >So, if you are a teacher, or a mayor or other government official,
are
> > you
> > > >not sinning if you do not use every opportunity to spread the Gospel.
> As
> > a
> > > >teacher, aren't you commanded by God to spread the Gospel to your
> pupils?
> > >
> > > But as a teacher, you are paid to teach what the school system has
> > provided
> > > for you to teach, if you don't like it, go teach at a church school.
> > >
> > > >This, of course, is an extreme position that is terribly politically
> > > >incorrect, but I'm sort of playing the devil's advocate here.
> > > >
> > > >Isn't it a violation of your "free exercise" rights if you are
> prohibited
> > > >from preaching, praying and proselytizing no matter what your
position
> in
> > > >the government?
> > >
> > > No, as your position is voluntary, usually by both parties, you are
> > allowed
> > > to leave, or be fired if you are not doing your job, and if your job
> says
> > > don't teach religion in your class, then you can't. If you have a
> problem
> > > with this, find another job.
> > >
> > > >Another question: If the government makes a law that says, "Thou
shalt
> > not
> > > >pray in public," isn't the government showing a preference for
> > irreligion,
> > > >if not secular humanism. Even a secularist is taking a religious
> position
> > > >based on faith (it takes as much faith not to believe as to believe).
> So,
> > > >when the government says, "no prayer," it's really "establishing
> > religion"
> > > >by establishing irreligion as the religion of choice for the
> government.
> > > >True or not?
> > > I would agree with that.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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