But you can always leave. I think that's the key to the right of free speech. You have 
the right to speak what you want as long as:
A. It does not cause others to come to harm (yelling fire in a theater or calling for 
the death of someone)
B. Your audience has the ability to leave without any physical, social or other harm.
You can always leave a list or newsgroup but a student can't leave a class. 
Either way, I barely have time for the lists and all let alone newsgroups. :)

At 10:36 AM 1/28/02, you wrote:
>for the most extreme example of spammy badness check out
>alt.religion.scientology
>99% of it is just fallout from bot generated flamewar mailbombs.  of course
>100% of the spam is from scientology itself and 99% of that is bad-mouthing
>their critics or impersonating posts in their names.  it's quite alarming...
>for added fun check out http://www.xenutv.com
>
>wogs of the world, unite!
>
>brendan avery 2.0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>310.779.2211 - santa monica, california
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 07:18
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: THIS IS SARCASM!! Re: Religious Freedom
>> 
>> 
>> Michael,
>> 
>> Your discussion of spamming the list seems very close to what 
>> I've seen on
>> several public newsgroups by some anonymous fanatics (i.e..,
>> sci.psychology.general and sci.psychology.psychotherapy). I'm 
>> going to have
>> to dig more closely into those message headers and figure out 
>> if you're one
>> of them.
>> 
>> :) 
>> 
>> Just kidding of course.
>> 
>> larry
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:32 PM
>> > To: CF-Community
>> > Subject: THIS IS SARCASM!! Re: Religious Freedom
>> > 
>> > 
>> > <CF_sarcasm disclamer="An example, not something that'll 
>> ever happen">
>> > I've decided that Howard is right. I have every right to impose my 
>> > religious views on anyone I want. For this reason, the 
>> lists and all 
>> > related resources will be closed down from Friday night to an 
>> > hour after 
>> > sundown Saturday nigh as well as all Jewish holidays. In 
>> > addition, the 
>> > new footers of the list will praise the words of the Torah 
>> > while saying 
>> > how all other religions are wrong. I may even put in headers asking 
>> > people to convert to Judaism before each post. Of course, you 
>> > have the 
>> > right to leave the list but then you loose the resource. 
>> You can even 
>> > start up your own list but I'll come there as well and do the 
>> > same. If 
>> > you ban me I'll sue for having my first amendment right being taken 
>> > away. 
>> > Of course, I can also spam you and you have no right to 
>> stop me from 
>> > doing so. Think of me as a teacher teaching in a class. I'm 
>> > just getting 
>> > my message across. All you can do is not listen.
>> > </CF_sarcasm>
>> > 
>> 
>
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