Why thank you, Larry, I'm flattered ;) Actually, I don't consider Tom a troll yet. Misguided and maybe with an intentional purpose of demoralizing possibly (but doubtful)... Looking at the post history in both CF-Talk and CF-Community, it seems that he has joined only recently and is not aware of the readership of this list.
C. Hatton Humphrey > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:26 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: The Death of Cold Fusion > > > Hatton, > > That was an excellent reply to a troll. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > http://www.pacel.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:35 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: The Death of Cold Fusion > > > > > > Tom, > > > > A couple of things to point out, none intended as a personal > > attack and all > > subject to the fact that (a) it's 1am here, (b) I'm just a > > developer without > > any financial gain in the rise and fall of the IT sector of > > the market and > > (c) I'm tired of seeing "Cold Fusion is Dying" posts on CF > > specific lists. > > > > First of all, in comparing the financial sheets of Microsoft > > and Macromedia > > you are looking at two completely different entities. Both > > are software > > firms, both sell products and both offer a server-side > > scripting language, > > but beyond that point no other comparisons can be made. > > Microsoft has a > > slew of other products as does Macromedia. Hell, if MM considered MS > > "competition", why is ColdFusion completely compatible with > > IIS? Sorry, I'm > > rambling... financially *all* IT performers, big and small, are down. > > > > If you are a *serious* investor then I will give you this > > advice... it's > > something that I've been told by several family members and > > friends: when > > the price of a stock is down, buy. If it goes down lower, > > buy more. When > > it goes up and you really think you need the money, sell half > > and hold the > > rest for the next time it goes up. The stock market and the > > economy are > > cyclical beings and people that are investing long term are > > having a heyday. > > Personally, I'll look back on 2001 in 30-odd years when I'm > > setting up 401k > > withdrawals and think, "man, I got a lot that year". > > > > Oh, and one note on the last link... If memory serves me > > correctly, June 30 > > 2001 was right around the time that MM and Allarie became one > > entity. That > > may have some of the effect on the numbers. Also, 2001 was > > not a good year > > for any company, and trend-wise I think that overall numbers > > will agree with > > me (not going to take the time to research it, it's a moot point). > > > > Hell, you want to see the ultimate definition of "screwed", > > take a look at > > Easy Street (currently trading as EASYD)... I bought when > > they were Mail.com > > (MAIL) at 21.25/shr (6 shares, I played in the market with > > some money left > > over from stocks I got from working for Tandy). Now they're > > trading at > > 3.80/shr after a reverse 10 for 1 split. > > > > Second point- if you were a regular subscriber or visitor to > > either list > > (CF-Talk or CF-Community), you would have seen the ASP vs. CF vs. PHP > > discussions we've had. One thing that we all know and > > realize is the CF is > > not the end-all of scripting languages. I for one embrace > > the philosophy > > that knowing how to program at a logical level is key to a developer's > > success in the industry. Language is irrelevant. If you > > know how to write > > a page that gathers information from a database and loops > > through it and > > displays it in a specific format in one language, it is a matter of > > semantics for you to figure out how to do it in another. Maybe that's > > because I have web-based, disk based and hardware based programming > > experience. > > > > Finally, I want to reiterate that I'm tired of seeing people > > come into a > > group and immediately slam the company/product line/concept > > of that group. > > Why do people do that? It's not just here... I get them on > > my Ham Radio and > > BBS lists. Both are hobbies of mine and there's always got > > to be someone > > that wants to spoil my fun. > > > > There you have it, my unabashed, opinionated, undereducated > > response to a > > baseless fear. If you want to learn ASP, go ahead... it's not that > > difficult of a syntax to learn. I know it, and so do many > > many many other > > people on this list. Thing is, we're here to talk about CF. > > The Community > > side of the list is more for personal chit-chat, political > > debate, muffin > > throwing and the occasional discussion on religion. Feel > > free to join in if > > you like. > > > > C. Hatton Humphrey > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tom Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:10 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: The Death of Cold Fusion > > > > > > Would anyone with some financial and marketing expertise care > > to discuss > > the issue of the mutation of CF5 into something else. I have a rather > > widely accepted theory that most analysts find quite a bit of > > credence in. > > > > IMHO, to those of you who have already lost tens of thousands > > of dollars > > over this sham, is stay away from MM. IMHO, they will not > > make a decent > > profit until 2004 - ready for that? > > > > I will reveal my sources if enough people seem to be > > interested and can > > read a financial sheet. In the mean time, compare stock > > performance charts > > of MACR and MS. > > > > Read the notes DAILY such as: > > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=MACR > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/n/m/macr.html > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/p/m/macr.html > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/z/a/m/macr.html (this one is guaranteed > > to burn your > > ass) > > > > http://messages.yahoo.com/?action=q&board=MACR (take all > > info with a grain > > of salt, and compare it with other boards) > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/fin/l/m/macr.html (and this one ladies > > and gentlemen > > will make you cry - or go out and buy an asp book.) > > > > > > Well, per Mr. Dnowitz's request, we are now all corralled > > into the correct > > forum. But guess what - it doesn't make the news any better - it just > > limits the number of programmers that can, USING THEIR OWN WISDOM AND > > KNOWLEDGE, will glean any knowledge and possible fore warning. > > > > Well, everyone knows how to read the tape, and everyone knows > > how to read > > between the lines. (like no version CF5.2 or 5.5 - we'll just > > make a big > > deal out of it- cause everyone to buy the thing, it won't > > work the first > > time around- so call the MM "tech Serv" lines. > > > > This is getting entirely too humorous. > > > > OFF TO RESEARCH ASP! I feel like the pied piper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > > ************** > > * > > Tom Forbes, Forbes Web Consulting, Inc. > > TEL: 407-772-3427 FAX: 407-772-3428 > > Visit www.medmatrix.com for Medical Equipment Web Sites! > > We build and host Medical Equipment company Web sites too! > > ************************************************************** > > ************** > > * > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
