> Dana wrote:
> I find it a bit frightening to see someone equating religion with culture.

Yeah, good point, sub-culture would be a better term.  People use
church to make them feel good about their lives and this involves a
sub-culture: picnics, socials, basketball games, etc.

People use church as a great equalizer (like alcohol). For example, I
used to play basketball with virtually the same set of people.  In
church games it'd be all nice friendly.  In school games there'd be
swearing, elbowing, etc.

So while Sam's point might seem true on the surface, what's really
happening is that there are people who want a be-good environment so
they go to church - which also typically requires religion.

However there are many secular groups that provide the same
sub-culture without religion: cub/boy scouts, big brother/sister, etc.

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