To be completely honest I have actually considered moving down there.

I'm thinking the whole gulf coast is going to have a considerable resurgence
over the next decade and those people that position themselves properly will
be able to do great good, and to make a good deal of money.  Sounds win win
to me.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:23 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: What today means to me
>
>
> It's not household garbage removal, it is wholesale hauling, mostly
> handled with big equipment. Picture big yellow machines and huge dump
> trucks. And the outside companies don't want to come in without huge
> guaranteed contracts, which I hope they never get.
>
> The National Guard actually has these capabilities, and is prepared
> for this type of large debris removal.
>
> I'm not advocating standard rates, but the prices being suggested are
> completely unacceptable (to me, to the people in charge, and to every
> person in New Orleans I've talked to).
>
> The locals that are working on the job are doing a great job. I can
> still picture one pile down there about a mile long , 40 feet high,
> and about 80 feet wide. They had that pile taken down and removed two
> days later when I drove back by it.
>
> You can rent a backhoe for about $680 a month, and get a permit to
> start hauling. If you can partner with someone who owns a big truck,
> you have a license to print money. I know 3 people down there who are
> doing that now part-time (they have rules about how much you can work
> per day, so many people still have regular jobs).
>
> There is also a lot of problems with hauling. If you don't have
> permission of the owner, and can't find them to get it, you can't
> touch the house unless it is condemned. Which has been fought
> repeatedly in court, and is still a huge issue. They cannot even move
> the abandoned cars due to laws and regulations without permission from
> the owner.
>
> I am amazed at how much HAS been cleaned up (and am constantly amazed
> every month as I get updates).
>
> The biggest problem I still see there is the lack of definitive
> decisions about rebuilding. Where is it allowed, what will the
> insurance be, and most importantly, what building codes will be used
> where.
>
> People are ready to rebuild. Hell, even in the lower 9th, you can see
> people fixing their houses by hand every day. But until they get some
> decisions about the above issues, there is no incentive to rebuild,
> yet.
>
> On 8/29/06, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've got to say that if anyone expects to pay someone "standard rates"
> > under circumstances this extraordinary, they deserve to have giant
> > piles of garbage all around them.
> >
> > And anyone who thinks that the government is going to do anything
> > efficiently or cheaper is delusional.  The National Guard is not
> > "free", it's not cheap, and it's not a garbage service.  I would much
> > rather private industry take care of this problem, even if it's a
> > little more expensive than the garbage service here at my house.
> >
> > Or.... we can all pretend we are all government employees and sit
> > around on our golden toilet seats arguing over the best way to flush
> > tax money down our golden toilets.
>
> 

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