I signed up over there. Here's my post: To be honest I'm surprised to hear this question coming from someone that has obviously done some minimal research.
You mention several of our communities biggest and most well known advocates, you see the money that is being made off of publication of ColdFusion resources, now let's touch on just a bit of what CF can actually offer you. One of the biggest complaints that I hear about CF is the cost of the license. Now, I am a government developer. This means of course that we can usually get reduced pricing as Macromedia, and now Adobe, really has seen the largest growth of CF in the government sector, and I think they would like to continue that growth. The licensing is greatly offset by the ease and speed of development and the built in integration with many cutting edge technologies such as Web Services, Flash, Flex, Ajax and the new gateways and listeners opening the possibilities into a further expansion of the technologies that CF will easily interact with. SEO complaints are unfair. If you are a good developer and know what you are doing you can easily optimize any site or application for search engine crawling. Any language can be badly written. That is dependent on the developer at hand. The fact that CF seems to have a higher number of non-traditional programmers, ones that maybe didn't go to college or didn't intended to become developers, seems to have created a glut of bad applications. This isn't the fault of either the language or the application server. You can see very close similarity in some of the PHP projects that are out there that are horribly written. Something else that I think is important to point out. The majority of development done in CF is for web based applications, not web sites. The audience for CF is working on closed systems for government and industry intranet applications primarily. Additional attention I think needs to be paid to the government angle. A lot of the developers I know work in defense, law enforcement and intelligence. We cannot talk about a lot of the applications we work on. They are classified. However if you go to the Adobe site you can see the depth and breadth of the agencies that are using CF for internal software development. Anyway, I have to be honest; I think your original article was both uninformed and offensive to me as a CF developer. I just did a search for ColdFusion jobs on monster.com and came up with hundreds of jobs. These jobs are not low level and low pay positions with some piker web dev shed; these are senior level positions in corporate and government circles. I am happy with CF, even though I have and continue to write other languages, it is my preference for doing browser based applications. I make a good living, and I am able to continue to expand my skill set and my abilities. Finally, I'm Tim/Loathe, I spend a lot of time over at House of Fusion. No one over there is hiding from you; honestly we were just discussing what seemed to be your obvious distaste for the language, coupled with your obvious lack of knowledge about CF, as a language, an application server or a community of developers. > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:45 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Can someone please respond to this guy? > > he's an asshat. > > because he doesn't want to subscribe (where he's be able to see all of > our names), he says we're hiding under tne "anonymity" of the site. > > he closes his article with "ColdFusion deserves better". That's > particularly true of the person that webpronews chose to assign to its > coverage of ColdFusion. > > On 9/27/06, Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By the way, the guy did a follow-up article where he took a jab at HoF > and > > this list. > > > > http://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62- > 20060925ColdFusionMattersAndYourResponses.html > > > > Sorry for the crazy wrap. > > > > Judith > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:216301 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
