Again, you keep saying that. But I repeat. We know of at least three US 
citizens it has been applied nonetheless. That's the problem when you keep 
tinkering with human right. We hold these truths to be self-evident, unless it 
is an election year. All men are created equal, except the ones that are enemy 
combattants. And the enemy combattants are who we say they are. 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or 
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; (We'll just brand them as terrorists 
instead) or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; (except that 
those who do not agree with the government are traitors) or the right of the 
people peaceably to assemble, (except that in the fine print they will find 
that the free speech area is miles from what they are protesting) and to 
petition the Government for a redress of grievances (except if they are enemy 
combattants). 

Bah. In years to come people will wonder how we could allow this to happen. 
Dana


>On 10/12/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>If you want to classify the law just passed as "evil" that's up to you
>- I have not tried to defend the legislation or it's intentions.  I am
>simply sick and tired of people saying that this is removing habeus
>corpus for US citizens.
>
>It is not.
>
>Now whether or not the US should extend constitutional freedoms,
>rights and requirements to people that have been detained during a
>military action in which they were firing upon our soldiers or
>plotting to kill our civillians is another discussion entirely.  If
>you want to work the "evil" concept back into this, let me give you
>two scenarios:
>1. A "militia man" is captured by the enemy and is sent to a dention
>center.  In this detention center he is allowed to continue practicing
>his religion, fed and clothed better than he has ever been in his life
>and occasionally subjected to interrogations that cannot interfere
>with his prayers or meals.
>2. A relief worker is kidnapped in the middle of the night, shoved in
>a closet and attempts are made to convert him to another religion.  He
>refuses and after three days is beheaded.  His body is dragged through
>the streets of the town that he was sent to provide aid for, ending up
>being hung and burned.
>
>Which of those two is more evil?

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