Ditto what Mary said about the 18-55 lens.  My Nikon came with a 28-80
which I really didn't find that useful at all.  It seemed like I was
always saying, "Move in a little closer together".  My choice for an
all around lens has been a Sigma 18-200mm.  Like Mary said, you do
lose some quality with the third party lenses, but I'm so amateur I
don't notice it much.  If I had to do it over again, I probably would
have opted to buy only the body and add the lenses that I wanted later
instead of the kit.

On 1/1/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >She's been sold on the camera (Canon vs Nikon or Sony) and drooling
> >over this model for well over a year.  I'm wondering if this is the
> >best deal out there... it's the best I can find at any point.
>
> I'm a big fan of Canon digital SLRs, I use a 20D myself. The Rebel models 
> have always been excellent values for the price and will blow away any 
> consumer compact digital model in performance and image quality.
>
> However, I usually recommend against "packages". Generally you aren't going 
> to get the best quality items for the price you pay. For instance, the 
> 18-55mm lens is really not a terribly useful one for most people. You'll 
> generally find you need more range for basic family shots and there are 
> better quality lenses to be found at a reasonable price that you will get far 
> more use out of. I personally use the 28-135 mm lens which gives you a much 
> more useable range and fairly good quality image, there is also a 28-105 
> which is still a better range for general use but about half the price. You 
> may find you eventually need a wideangle lens, but there are some decent lens 
> that go down even less than 18mm which will help when you have a digital like 
> the Rebel which has a 1.6x crop factor which loses you a lot of space on wide 
> shots. Most people will also want a good long-distance telephoto. The Canon 
> 80-300mm IS is quite decent for the price. If you absolutely can't afford 
> that, there are the 3rd party lenses made for Canon as well, but you do get 
> what you pay for and lose not only image quality but will find them fairly 
> slow to autofocus.
>
> Memory cards you can of course get really cheap if you look around, and I'd 
> recommend at least 2 gig. If you go on a trip and shot lots of images 
> (particularly if you get into using RAW), you may eventually want even 
> another card of that size or you may find yourself running out of space. I 
> personally check devsdeals.com regularly when I am wanting to find a new 
> memory card at a good price. There's a 2 gig card listed there now for $38 
> after rebate.
>
> The tripods you get in these kits are usually pretty cheap and don't stand up 
> to serious use. Add a telephoto lens on the camera and you may find that 
> tripod unable to stay in place. Likewise camera bags. Usually low quality and 
> not sufficient space once you add a couple lens, flash, etc.
>
> I was however intrigued by that price since it was so much below the normal 
> rate from a reputable online seller that I usually deal with. I did a quick 
> search and came up with this:
>
> http://forums.photographyreview.com/showthread.php?t=12803
>
>
> Finally, if price is a huge issue for you, you could consider a used Rebel. 
> There's one on B&H Photo right now listed in like-new quality. These tend to 
> get snapped up fast though so may not be there for long!
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productList&A=buyUsed&Q=371188
>
> HTH!
>
> --- Mary Jo
>
>
> 

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