>> idiots! You'd figure that they'd have learned to drive in that sort of 
>> weather.
>
>When weather of this sort is a once every decade or decade-and-a-half
>event in Portland/Seattle...not much opportunity to practice...
>
>after all these aren't DC or Minneapolis drivers we're seeing here...
>
>they're Californians
>

I thought this was in Portland Oregon. If its California, then what I said 
earlier is simply redundant, the idiot part is a given.

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