On 2/22/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *nix == free + man hours | MS = $$ + man hours. > > How much does a copy of windows server cost the average large > organization? > About $100, maybe even less. I think we pay $80 for Standard and $120 for > Enterprise. How much does Red Hat Enterprise cost? Large companies buy > support contracts, the OS is going to cost about the same.
Perhaps. It doesn't have to, obviously, since the OS SW is free. Is there a free, enterprise capable windows version out there? Any free version, for that matter? Is it possible for MS to cost less than free, I guess is my question. Just for the SW- no man hours, or external considerations. > > > I'm not sure if you meant what I think, but there were 3 *nix only apps > > that > > were mentioned on cf-talk in the last few. > > Yeah, based on the admins and software designers personal preference. Everything is based on someone's preference. My point is that there are some pretty slick apps that will only work on *nix, and vice versa. Of particular interest, several Open Source apps will not run on MS. > Last I saw (some "business 2.0" type mag) the XServe had the lowest, > > what's > > that acronym- means "man hours" or whatever? Work hrs to admin? Well > > it was > > the lowest. And I don't buy uptime being the same-- many updates to > > windows > > require reboots. Only kernel updates require reboots on *nix. > > Depends on what you are updating, and how you update it. If you do the > windows update, then yeah it may require a reboot. If you stop the service > > than update it then restart the service then it won't need to reboot. To a certain extent, sure, it depends. But in general, when everything is tied together, it's harder to update specific things. MS is more tied together than OS types of stuff. Cyclon vs. less connected. =] Thus, I wager a reboot is required with MS more often than with Linux. (in fact, I know it is ;-) I think I did 14 or so patches last week and I didn't have to reboot. Again, > it is a question of knowing how to do it. Are you implying I don't know my way around windows land? Should I get me some certs to prove my knowledge? No scam there, no. I'm sure a MCSE will really know what 'spozed to be known, etc.. Eh. Sorry, I know the certs are an attempt to make people stay up to date, and whatnot, but I've seen how it's been implemented, and must say it's sorta a cookie cutter affair. Naw, but seriously, I've done quite a bit with windows, more than with Linux, actually... there's plenty of space for both... but I'm not some Uber Linux dood, destined for world domination or somesuch. I'll get'r done with whatever I have to. But the mentality behind Open Source is just freaking awesome and powerful and, well, swell. Beats the pants off of MS mentality. Maybe not MS /users/ mentality, but the sorta driving company one. Shark-like nature, wot wot. > Doesn't Oracle recommend *nix now? [= > > Maybe, but I thought that just had to do with Larry Ellison hating Bill > Gates Do you run any Oracle servers? I've done it on both. In many positions. It was naaaaasty. Don't shtop, get it get it-- ooo ooo -- some gorillaz remix- not as cool as the burning windmill, visually. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:228760 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
