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> From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've been running Vista for months now and I've never seen that many
popups for one thing. For my day to day stuff I don't get the security
popups at all.

> I just dont have all the crap to do that i did on windows. I don't
have to
> shut down the computer at night or reboot when i wanna work to get it
to
> run better, i dont have to clean it or virus scan or clean out
registry,
> etc...

This is something I just don't understand, I never do these things, I
don't shutdown the system, I don't go around cleaning out the registry.
On my XP machine its been up for over 26 days. I installed it in May of
2005, I've never installed a virus scanner, never had to deal with
spyware.

> And all the people who dispute it havent actually worked on a mac and
if
> you havent noticed especially in the developer world a majority of the
> well known bloggers are switching to macs in droves.

Sure I have, I've had to get them to test with in the past. But its
never made sense. By the time OSX came out I was doing .NET development.
I'd used OS9 in school, and for testing in the past, but it didn't make
sense as a workstation because of the cost. 

> Then there are the security issues. Ok well, like Dave Watts said in
other
> forum (which i didnt keep up on), it depends on the user and dont run
in
> admin mode. Well wtf is that? Things have gotten so bad on a pc that
you
> cant just turn it on and go, now you cant even run in admin mode and
all
> the popups and all the questions and blah blah blah, too me thats not
a
> very productive OS, its bullshit. And for the people who say "but if
macs
> were as popular as pc's then they'd have more problems too....", well
> maybe so but the fact is that right now and for a lot of years to come
mac
> users just dont have that to worry about and personally I'd rather be
> productive during that time than a coward hiding behind a faux
security
> mode in windows.

This is something that is interesting, in OSX do you always run as a
privileged user? I thought it would prompt you if you were doing
something that required additional permissions, and I didn't think you
were always in admin mode. You can turn off the security stuff in Vista
if you want, it isn't hard, I haven't done it because it doesn't bother
me, I don't get them. My Wife, never gets them, she didn't get that one
Mac ad because she hadn't ever seen one.

> The windows users can say what they want, for those who try the
switch,
> you see what it does and how it helps you. If you are to chicken to
try
> then enjoy vista and know its just a piss poor version of OS X and
while
> we are playing with new toys for the next few years you will still be
> having sloppy seconds......

I would try to the switch if I could afford it. I can afford to spend
two to three times the price for a Mac. If they would let me build my
own machine and run OSX on it, I'd give it a shot, but they won't. Give
me an option. On the other side, of it, until I can do my job on a Mac,
and play the games I want on a Mac, there isn't a point in even trying.

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