It is really funny. I'm not the only one waiting for some explanation
from you about this. You've made it clear you don't understand how
hardware works. You seem to think there is magic dust in there and it
just works.

It ran just a like a normal copy would run.

As for my Windows, nope, all legal, through beta programs, MSDN, our
Campus Agreement and my Dell. I have 100% legal copies of Microsoft
Windows and Office.

I've called Apple support before, they all but hang up the phone on me.
I was trying to get more information on when Safari would begin would
work Kerberos Authentication. They guy didn't know what that was, and
basically told me he couldn't help me, and there wasn't anybody there
that could. We have a reasonable size contract with Apple, so I was
fairly surprised by that.

On the other side, when we called Microsoft regarding an issue we were
having with file sharing across PAT they were working directly with us
and Cisco to determine what the problem was and help us get it working.
Turns out it was a Cisco problem, Cisco said they would get around to it
at some point while MS provided us with what we need to get it working.

If I call dell, I tell them what broke, and they ship me a new one, I
ship the old one back, and then Dell pays me $50 for a desktop, $60 for
a Laptop, or $80 for a server because I saved them money by them not
having to send a Tech. One time I had a memory chip throwing single bit
failures I called dell, told them what was going on, within 2 hours I
had 8 new sticks of memory and a new riser card.

Your support contract with Dell includes support for the OS if you
bought the OS from Dell. If I call dell with a problem, and they
determine it needs to be escalated up to Microsoft, Dell hot transfers
me to a MS rep, and stays on the line while we get things worked out.

I'd like to see you actually post sources instead of making up numbers.
You've done that in this and many other threads. You just pull numbers
out of your head and expect people to believe them.

You can download the pirated copy, and you can make it work, it isn't
just a pop in the disk and look it works, its close. Home users aren't
going to go around looking for pirated operating systems and risk
blowing away their family photos. Businesses aren't going to do it
because they put them selves in big legal trouble should something come
up. The people that are going to do it, are those interested in security
and other trends. People who want to do it just to see if it can be
done.

I'm not the only one asking the question, others have asked it also, you
refuse to answer them because you don't know. You've backed yourself
into a hole that you don't know how to get out of so you have nothing
left to do but call me an idiot. We've come to something you don't
understand so instead of owning up to it, you make up numbers and call
me a dirt clod and say I should go get some cookies from my mom.

I've been doing this for a long time, I've used a lot of different
computers and I have a pretty good idea how things should run. The funny
thing is, I'm not even offended by your comments. If you could think of
something to say to refute my claims you would, instead you ignore them
and call me stupid.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: New MacBook Pro 15!
> 
> damn dude, why argue? You basically are saying you are right and you
dont
> even own a mac and I am wrong and I do own a mac.
> 
> Talking to you is like talking to a dirt clod, go get some "actual"
> experience on a real mac then come argue. If your pirated & hacked
version
> of os x was anywhere close to working like a real one then it would be
> everywhere, all over and everyone would be doing it. Instead while
almost
> every pc company is having very little or negative growth Apple is
> thriving 20-40% higher than everyone else. So now why would they all
go do
> that if they could just dl a pirated cracked copy? I bet your windows
is
> pirated as well.
> 
> And until you can speak with a an educated tongue then just don't
speak at
> all, go into the other room and eat cookies with your mom or
something.
> 
> 
> some quotes i found i think pertain. first one reminds me of this
guy...
> 
> "
> 
> Apple may indeed have a plan for a future, gradual transition to an
all-
> software company, but chances are that will be ruined by all the
idiots
> out there who want everything, but don't want to pay for anything.
> 
> When you buy a Mac, you don't just buy hardware and you don't just buy
> software. When you buy a Mac you are also buying customer service.
> 
> A Dell might be cheaper, but you get what you pay for. Try calling
Dell
> customer service. They'll blame the problem on the software. Talk to
> Microsoft, they'll blame the problem on the hardware. If you ever need
to
> call Apple with a problem, they are intelligent, speak English
fluently
> and don't pass the blame to another company.
> 
> Part of the stability advantage that Apple has over Windows and even
Linux
> is that Apple controls the hardware configuration of each of it's
systems
> from start to finish. Apple does not substitute one brand of DVD-ROM
drive
> for another. For instance, if a business buys five Macs (all iBooks
for
> example). All 5 machines are exactly the same configuration, all of
them
> will have exactly the same brand and model of DVD-ROM/RW, etc drive.
On
> Dell, HP, IBM, Gateway, eMachines, etc, if you order 5 laptops of
exactly
> the same model and configuration, the first laptop might have a Sony
> branded DVD drive, the next will have a Toshiba brand DVD, the third
will
> have a LITE-ON brand DVD, the fourth will have a Panasonic/Matsushita
DVD,
> and the last laptop will have a Samsung DVD drive. This means that
Windows
> or Linux needs to have a massive IDE controller driver database loaded
> upon boot. The iBook/MacBook does not need this. The fewer drivers in
> MacOS means the OS runs much leaner, using less memory and less
potential
> for errant drivers to cause serious problems for the user. If Apple
starts
> licensing OS X to third party CPU vendors, it will need to develop
MacOS
> to have a massive driver database. This will lessen the stability of
the
> system software and may compromise the quality of the user experience
with
> MacOS.
> "
> 
> 
> 

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