Not to mention that where do you think the battalion policies came from? The manual are a starting point used to create additional SOPs. So you drove TOP around, therefore you were privy to the same scoop as TOP and the brass. How many people in a battalion? How many of those people are not privy to that info until just before they move out. MOST are not privy to the data before they are getting ready to use it. How many times did you learn of something 12 - 24 hours a ahead of time then go out were you risked being captured? How many times were you aware of a future event while being in a situation that you were likely to be taken prisoner? MOST are only aware of the details of their current operation, not the operation for tomorrow or the day after.
Again, I just thought it interesting that according to this guy they weren't asking most guys to play superman and get tortured over intel of questionable valuable. If you knew something beyond the norm I would imagine your commander would like it if you tried to hold back that info, but be more than willing to tell them the mundane crap. Do you really think its a surprise to anyone the number of units in country, a camp etc.. The fact that a platoon of 12 guys is going to attack the bad guy headquarters at 0600, coming in from the bushes to the right with 3 guys on the front door and 3 guys at the back door with 2 guys each in 3 in gun positions here, here and here. Well, golly Wally, that might be a different scenario, and your buddies might appreciate you trying to keep that info to yourself. Heald, Timothy J wrote: > By the time I was an E-3 I had not only read it but owned a copy, as > well as 7-8, Ranger Handbook, the operational symbols one, Airborne > Operations, Air Assault Operations, and that's not to mention the 100 or > so correspondence courses I took. > > This is one of the big reasons I hate it when people want to get down on > infantryman. It is not easy to be a grunt and the depth and breadth of > knowledge needed to do it successfully is incredible. Memorize the five > line op order, call for fire, 9 line medivac, movement techniques, all > the other skill level 1,2 and 3 tasks (chemical nuclear and biological > warfare stuff, weapons stuff, uniform stuff) also the legal side, > conventions and treaties I mean the list of crap you have to learn goes > on and on. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:51 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized.. > > What Private has read that manual? I was talking about the practical, > tactical intel a Private knows. That is stuff the bad guys could really > use. When I was driving I got regular movement briefings for the entire > battalion with Top. He needed the information, so by extension I needed > it too. > > I might not have remembered it all, but it would have been useful for > the enemy to know that the battalion would start moving north on Hwy 1 > from Hwy 190 to new firing points at 0500 hrs on April 4, 2007. I > usually got that sort of information 12 to 24 hours before the actual > movement order was issued. In this case the standard tactical SOP was > for the advanced party to move out along the same basic route 60 to 90 > minutes prior to the movement. > > Putting the 2 pieces together would allow the enemy to find the advanced > party and ambush the batteries as they moved into the new firing points. > > >> Standard tactical stuff is meaningless. How much of that is standard >> SOP stuff in books that anyone can buy at Amazon or Ebay? >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:231955 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
