> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:06 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
> 
> I beg to differ. Last year when I moved back to California I could not
> find
> a tech job to save my life, so I went back to doing labor work to pay
> the
> bills. Guess what? That was hard to find too because I was not willing
> to
> work for the amount of money that the illegals were (I was willing to
> do the
> work though). I finally found work and went to installing cable for

To me that's the crux: you were not willing to work for the amount of money
that the illegals were.  You said it yourself: you could have worked, but
not for that compensation.

The sad truth is that we keep talking about illegal immigrants as if it's
their fault, as if they're criminals when in fact (in my opinion) it's the
hirers.

We've got a great country, there's no denying it. We're also very close to
some not-so-great countries.  We're going to attract illegal immigrants:
there's really nothing we can do about that (except lower our standard of
living below what they've got at home... but I don't like that solution
much).

We've got to make it less attractive to come here.  Personal risk is a
laughably silly deterrent when you're talking about people that may starve
in their homelands.  They come here to do better - as long as they CAN DO
BETTER they'll keep coming.  And making 15-25% of our minimum wage is much,
much better for a lot of these people.

For a hirer they can saves incredible amounts of money with very little
risk.  You won't take their deal but they've a surplus of hungry illegals
that will.  They risk what?  Fines that come near to the savings they've
made?  A slap on the wrist?  In the rarest of cases some small jail sentence
for one of the subordinates that they've shielded themselves with?

So what's better?  Telling desperate people not to come despite all the
evidence in the world that they can thrive here or coming down on the hirers
and cutting off their attraction to come in the first place?

Jim Davis


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