there ARE such people. To say it is a vast majority is such a vast
over simplification as to be insulting. To say that money management
classes would end poverty is ridiculous. Please explain how they would
help this woman, for instance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWJtlQmgNeE


> Yer not being rude, and I certainly didn't mean to come across so curtly. I
> just wonder if there is really any disagreement here. I think we all see the
> need for a safety net to help those who are thrust into poverty through no
> fault of their own. We also need to remove the road blocks you mention above
> that prevent many from pulling themselves up.....basically, if someone has
> the WILL to succeed, we must ensure they have the WAY.
>
> I think Gruss also has a point that there are people who have become
> impoverished through bad life choices. Gruss seems to want to make a
> distinction, or at the very least, put some oversight into social welfare on
> people who may fall into this category....to ensure an ROI for society.
>
> Social programs have to place requirements on recipients, do they not, to
> ensure that the ultimate goal is eventually met: a self-supporting member of
> society?
>
> --
> Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of
> decency?
>
>
> 

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