All that education costs a lot of money, Gruss....and you've questioned your
responsibility to pay those who either are in their situation by their own
choices, or who don't exhibit the desire to pull themselves out of their
situation.

So lets focus our discussion to this point. Is there an obligation on our
part to provide monetary assistance (in the form of education, drug
programs, etc) for people who have impoverished themselves by their on
choices? And if so, are there reasonable benchmarks that society can set
that the person is required to meet in order to receive said assistance? And
if so, is there a point where society can, for all intents and purposes,
give up on someone and leave them to their chosen fate?

On 6/25/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Scott wrote:
> > Learning is only part of the problem
>
> Absolutely, but the point is:
>
> Some portion of those below the poverty line can be helped to live above
> it.
>
> "Helped" means fixing whatever psychological/drug/whatever issues they
> have, and then teaching them how to live in our society.
>
> I'm grouping it all under "education" because that's what it really
> is.  For example, how do you treat drug dependence?  By teaching
> someone the tools they can use to live without it and thus giving them
> hope that they can.  By showing them people who've done it.
>
> No guarantees that even with the tools they'll *want* to, but at least
> they'll know how.
>
> 

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