Here is some info from a Pitbull owner, with regard to the breed and fighting.
Put simply, Pitbulls are bred to fight. A dog that isn't a fighting dog simply isn't a Pitbull. Pitbulls are supposed to fight till the death, and proper fights with referees and handlers are designed to reward this behaviour, not whether the dog kills the other. In fact in proper fights deaths are not the goal. =============== "To clear up some popular misconceptions on dogfighting ... True dog fighting is based on the scratch and turn rules. These rules were formulated by dog fighters long ago to actually help minimize the damage on the dogs and help ensure the dog that won the fight is the dog that is willing to continue fighting and not simply the dog that's dominant in a fight. Thus the emphasis on gameness. Like boxers, the dogs a separated periodically in a fight and taken to their respective corners. The dog that gave a bad sign or looked like it wanted to stop fighting is required to "scratch" or go across and take a hold of the dog in the opposite corner in order for the fight to continue. This continues until inevitably, one dog refuses to go back to the fight (quits) or the handler of one of the dogs (usually the non-dominant dog) decides that his dog will die before he quits. A truly game dog is a precious thing and a search on the internet of reputable kennels will see them proudly display a dog as a possible 2 time winner and 1 time game loser. The fact that the dog lost the match game (meaning he was taking a beating but was still willing to continue) is often more desirable that a dog that won 3 straight in short order because he might be a Tyson ... Talented, but with no true heart. " ============================ "All hardcore pit bull fanciers will not tolerate another breed because a pitbull is the only breed of dog (the good ones anyway) that will willingly do something it enjoys, literally until it dies trying. Truly game pitbulls are few and far between, by game I mean those dogs that will fight and never stop ... Most of them will stop fighting due to exhaustion, or just plain quit because they don't want to be there. Such quitting pitbulls are defined as curs and should be culled from any breeding program. You usually have only a 40% or less, turnout of game dogs per breeding and that's from proven game parents and grandparents; hence the importance of pedigrees in the pit bull world and the dogs contained therein. Like any performance-bred animal the traits of the breed are lost via unproven breedings. An unproven breeding is defined as one where the parents were never checked for their gameness and just bred because "dey bad", "red / red nosed" , "have big heads" or some other trite reason. You can't breed true racehorses with out racing them, consequently you can't breed true "game bred" pitbulls without fighting them. After a few short generations later and all you end up with is a racehorse that, while it may look like a racehorse, couldn't win a race to save its life. Same with the dogs, you'll end up with crap that's far removed from the actual definition of a game dog. Gamedogs are high maintenance. They do NOT do well with other animals / dogs whatever, but are typically extremely affectionate with family and friends (people) and can be trusted not to be very stable and easy to handle. Most vets surveyed (I'll try to find a link later) will state that a gamedog is one of their preferred breeds to work with. This is due to the nature of dog fighting, where there are referees and handlers for each dog in the pit who must never be bitten, else the biting dog is disqualified. Hence, these dogs are highly pain tolerant and unlikely to snap or complain when being worked on by you or your vet. Contrary to popular belief, most gamedogs do not make good guard dogs. They are not a protection breed and were never intended to be and as such you are more likely to end up with a very people friendly dog if it's left to its own devices. What about the dogs that go on a rampage killing people left and right? There are 3 possible explanations; the first is the dog is a scatter bred piece of crap that was bred from generations of crap that "was reel bad". The second is that the dog was trained by its owner (as is typically the case in this backward land) to kill kill kill and nothing else, so as soon as the dog gets away from home or whatever, that's all they know to do. The third is that there are a few gamedogs that will actually start fighting with a person. By this I mean they will treat / react to an intruder the same way they react to another dog and try to kill it or die trying ... These are the incidents where you here of a game dog being shot 12 times before it finally dies and is "fighting" the poor SOB the entire time. Ownership of this breed is not to be taken lightly. Because of the nature and reputation of these dogs, a certain number of weirdoes are attracted to the breed. These are usually the sorts of people who would own a lion if they could and use the dog to compensate for something else lacking in their manhood Rolling Eyes Consequently, the few bad / irresponsible owners make it harder on the rest of the legit dog owners because of the stigmas attached to the breed. Every precaution must be made to secure your property so that the dog will not get out, because people will panic and the sight of a gamedog, much less one who is tearing into fluffy who thought it was a good idea to bark at the big bad dog." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:238924 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
