Ok, seriously, how could you have NEVER heard of Michael Vick?

On 8/27/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have to say.... I had never heard of the man. I could not care less
> about football. But torturing dogs does strike me as unforgiveable.
> Not more so than child abuse -- I can't stand people who are horrible
> to other people but get all weepy over animals -- but equally so. I
> don't really think it's redeemable.
>
> Now, dogfighting and sometimes putting an animal down, humanely, well,
> I would not want to know someone like that but it doesn't strike me as
> being AS horrible.
>
> On 8/27/07, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is a big difference in my mind between "burned ants with a
> > magnifying glass as an 8 year old", and "strangled, drowned,
> > electrocuted, and bashed to death dogs for the fun of it as a 27 year
> > old man.".
> >
> > If you don't see a difference, then there is a difference between me and
> you.
> >
> > Had he just shot the dogs once, "humanely", this would be a completely
> > different story. If it was _just_ dogfighting, he would be getting a
> > better read.
> >
> > It is the torture ON TOP OF the dogfighting ON TOP OF the gambling ON
> > TOP OF the lying that is the real story here.
> >
> > And it is that torture that has placed him beyond the pale for many
> people.
> >
> > Normal people don't treat dogs the way he did.
> >
> > On 8/27/07, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Maybe Vick did find God.  It is possible, for someone to do something
> > > and realize they've strayed from the path of goodness.
> > >
> > > I'll bet Vick went to church as a kid.
> > >
> > > Did he find God because he got caught?  Almost assuredly.
> > >
> > > But don't assume that BECAUSE he's facing the consequences of his
> > > actions, he doesn't know or realize what a fuckup he is.  What a
> > > fucked up thing he did.
> > >
> > > Who among us didn't burn ants with a magnifying glass as children?  At
> > > least, who among the males on this list.  And it's a rhetorical
> > > question, if you didn't burn ants with a magnifying glass,
> > > congradufuckinglations.  Keep it to yourself.
> > >
> > > You can all be as cynical as you want about his sincerity.
> > >
> > > I'm just getting really sick of seeing all the attitude about all
> this.
> > >
> > > Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
> > >
> > > Vick will go to jail.  He'll serve time.  And he should.
> > >
> > > If you ask me, he deserves a second chance.  Maybe not in the NFL, but
> > > *I* choose to believe that he's learned a lesson (and it's not "don't
> > > get caught"), and will *NEVER* do anything like this again.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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