No I don't feel represented, but I shouldn't.  I am an ideological minority.

I'll vote Ron Paul, and bitch and moan.  I'll teach my kids about the
constitution and how to shoot.

I think they're going to need it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 12:34 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Another rat abandons the Ship
> 
> On 9/1/07, Loathe wrote:
> > If you don't see people complaining about the wiretap programs you
> aren't
> > paying attention.
> 
> I think my main point, is that sure, people complain (*blush*), but I
> have
> yet to get even ONE "survey" from the dems about this stuff.  It's all
> war
> war war.  Or abortion, etc..  Great stuff, and good for arguing and
> whatnot,
> but not really the biggest problems we're facing.  They're more
> symptoms,
> if you ask me.
> 
> And the Repubs?  "The terristses are gonna git ya if you don't allow us
> to
> tap yer phones!"  seems to be the party line.  Hell, the local yokel
> ran on
> that, using fake shit ("do you really want the .gov to have to wait to
> get
> a tap on terrists?", which was BS, they could file for the warrants
> post-
> tapping, which in itself is pretty insane, yet wasn't apparently
> invasive
> and constitution-crushing enough).
> 
> Sure people bitch about it, the same people that have been bitching
> about it since way before this latest crop of liberty-seller-off-ers.
> What
> bothers me is that the common joe doesn't really seem to care.
> 
> Until The Man is gunning for them, of course.  Then it's like "hey,
> this
> stuff is, like, protected and stuff"-  Ha!  Fair weather Americans.
> 
> And a third party?  People who actually believed in that crap are the
> reason Bush got in in the first place.  Don't blame Perot... I don't
> think Clinton turned out even a forth as bad, in comparison.  Yet
> still,
> jokers use him as an excuse to continue doing crap that they thought
> was bad when Clinton did it, but is somehow now ok because clinton
> did it, or whatever.
> 
> The Republicans, the party with all the power, and that SAYS it's for
> stuff like protecting liberty, and maybe state's rights and whatnot-
> Is the very party that's done the most damage in the history of the
> nation.
> 
> Mostly, I just see bitching about the war.
> 
> I want to see bitching about the dismemberment of the constitution, and
> Pork projects, and the way the system actually works, vs. all this kind
> of unrelated, almost yellow journalism type stuff.
> 
> Maybe I was confused, and it's just the libertarians who care about the
> core concepts of, um...  liberty, I guess.  Same problem as the greens,
> really.
> 
> Seriously tho, how many people do you know that are running on Civil
> Liberties, and restoring the constitution type stuff?  I can count them
> on one hand (of the only /two/ real parties).
> 
> Even when the common joe does care about an issue, do you really
> feel he's represented?  Are you feeling that the government is here
> to serve /you/, and your best interests?
> 
> Do you feel represented, Loathe?
> 
> 

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