On 9/6/07, G Money wrote:
>
> I disagree.

I don't.  :)  Not arguing for Creationism or whatnot- but I know what MikeD
is
talking about.

Scientists LOVE to challenge the known "standard", it's what drives many of
> them. If a scientist could find definitive evidence that evolution is
> bunk....oh man, they'd be world famous! What the ID crazies fail to
> comprehend, is that the reason evolution has never been seriously
> challenged
> is not because scientists aren't trying, it's because they aren't
> SUCCEEDING.


Here's my stock experience that gets at the heart of what Micheal is getting
at, I believe:  In high-school, I was in a "special" program, and we had
some
high-faluting scientist come give us a speech one time- Anyways, they open
it up for questions at the end, and a fellow student asks: "Is faster than
light
travel possible?"-  to which the Scientist says "No- this isn't star-trek"!!

The problem isn't limited to scientists, in fact, it's part of the human
condition-
that's where the Tao and those eastern "religions" come in-  'specially
like,
the ones that tell you not to focus on the "Material" (not just matter, but
ideas)

We, in general, don't like to have our worlds shaken up.  It's much nicer to
believe there is rhyme and reason and whatnot-  easier on the noggin.

Show me compelling scientific evidence that evolution is bunk, and I'll
> become a skeptic in a heart beat. I have no emotional ties to
> evolution.....it's just reality. It's just "fact" as we know it to be.
> I've
> never understood why that is such a difficult concept for some people?


Fact is in effect much more fluid than one would hope; is the part that
people have trouble with.

How come it took years and years to accept things we call "fundamental"
or "fact" now?

Heck, I /love/ G[funkyO]del, and it took like, I don't know how long until
people just accepted that bit about truth and proof.  Or whathaveyou.

A lot of physics guys don't have a problem reconciling science and the
special whatnot some people call religion or whatever.  And this was
years ago*-  It's when you try to replace the search for "how" with the
answer to "why" where you run into troubles.  I think.

I think.  =]

*hundreds if not thousands by now  =p


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