Robert, I'm surprised you don't see the contradiction in your statements. (like I'm one to talk ! =) )
Apparently we know what al-Q's main goal is - Iraq (ha! ;) What, exactly, is *our* objective, again? And I think it's sorta sad, that we're like "we're doing this to like, give you a taste of the good life, and whatnot" and at the same time saying stuff like "we're doing it over here so we don't have to mess up our house". And it's sickening how "terror" has been used and abused- seriously, I've never seen a reality closer to "1984" than I have now- it would be terrible to gout like that. Removing the tally-ban's sources of $$ WILL put us closer to defeating them in Iraq. Obviously! Starving people isn't a good way of lessening terrerists-ish-ness, tho. Like Judah says (nicely put, btw, J!)- the strats behind the whole deal are suspect. Just a total cluster-fsck, which good men and women are paying for, with their lives. Every day. Are we /really/ at war? Oh, yeah, how for fucks sake can you be at war with an idea. Fear fear itself, I say. *Don't coddle it and try to win elections with it.* I want the republicans to apologize for screwing over everything they said they stood for- democrats can't get it together enough to deserve the kind of crap the repubs do. I mean, this was concerted, and pretty damn lame (no offense to cripples). They're* all bastards, and in on the circular back-patting (or jerking, as the case may be). *"both" parties =] (especially the organized parts of the two- sickos!) Hell, my heart wanted to vote for Nader, back when- not cuz I really thought he was the best, but because I wanted to see the whole sad excuse of a "two party" system get shook up. Bad. Instead I voted defensively, fearing by some crazy chance Bush would get in there. I mean, come on! An Onion article too accurate to be funny? That's sickening. Even Clinton wasn't that predictable. :-) Then there's the arrogance, see, which just pisses me off. And the lack of public outcry- perhaps due to a suck-ass media, but none-the-less, you've got people who still try to defend the heinous crap that's gone down... instead of challenging the arrogance, like all Good Americans should. What, are we fighting for? Guess we want everyone to have to submit to anal searches, and lock their doors, because, well- "the times have changed" *fnord*. Sure, we've had our heads up our arses for a while- alcohol kills how many more people than other drugs combined? Bah. It's still especially grotesque what's gone down in the last 8 years. It's not like Bush2 can get elected again- why the lack of going out with a bang? I disliked a local politician's policy, but when he had no more time left, he was like "legalize! And I'm out!", whitch I thought was just freaking funny and kewl as hell. Bit sad too, but hey. Oh well. __ Surfs up! =] On 9/14/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oil is at $80 because of speculation and profiteering, but it would still be > at $70 without those factors. I'd like to see it closer to $50, and > stabilizing Iraq will help to do that. > > I am not concerned about opium production in the short term. We can't wipe > out their crops without substituting something else for them to live on. > Yes, we are allowing the enemy a source of funding, but that is a choice > driven by circumstances. Oil makes more money than opium, and we can still > bring the price of oil down. Stabilizing Iraq is a necessary part of that > objective. Preventing a wider war in the Middle East is another part of that > objective. Both of those things require us to be in Iraq, not Afghanistan. > > Then there is the remaining question of the ideological war against Al > Qaeda. Their main goal today is to defeat the U.S. in Iraq. It is a goal > driven by their plan to use Iraq as the launching pad for a world-wide > Islamic state by taking over the MIddle East and holding the rest of the > world hostage to its oil supplies. Wiping out poppy plants in Afghanistan > puts us no closer to defeating Al Qaeda in Iraq. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:242457 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
