too much divergence in worldview to answer this right now. Maybe I'll try later.

On 9/17/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/16/07, Dana wrote:
> >
> > But is it one of the top five problems, lol. If it's not a problem in
> > Iraq, is this perhaps just maybe because we have started a whole other
> > set of problems there than al Qaeda and the Taliban? Hello, we have
> > the Taliban in Afghanistan.
>
>
> And as I said, the Taliban is unable to defeat the government. Maybe we have
> a stalemate, but that's good enough for the short term. The Pakistanis have
> to suck it up and invade their tribal territories and clear out Taliban and
> Al Qaeda. That is the only workable long term solution.
>
> wait wait wait now -- weren't you defending the Plame leak tactic a while
> > back?
>
>
> The White House didn't out Plame, remember? That was accomplished by the
> biggest gossip in DC, Dick Armitage. Wilson lied about what he reported to
> the CIA. Had he just kept his pie-hole closed, or at least told the truth
> about what he reported, none of that would have happened. I didn't like the
> use of reporters to spread the story, though. That was a Cheney move.
>
> >
> > Silly me. There I thought they worked for the American people. Didn't
> > we just go through this at DOJ?
>
>
> What, leaked classified documents in time of war? I think not.
>
> Some arrogant fools at the CIA have been leaking classified documents to the
> media for years, solely to settle political scores because they don't agree
> with what the Administration is doing. That should never happen under any
> administration. They can report anything they need to report to Congress.
> But they don't want to do the right thing, they want to strong-arm the
> President. They deserve jail time.
>
> >
> > Considering all
> > the possibilities of the Patriot Act, we are going to have the War on
> > Terror a mighty long time.
>
>
> Yes, we are going to have the War on Terror a long time. Al Qaeda still
> wants to destroy the U.S. Iran still wants to destroy the U.S. The Taliban,
> as you pointed out earlier, are still in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Those are
> real enemies with real guns who want to do us real harm.
>
> >
> > Campaign against Hilary if you like but let's please just deal with
> > what is happening right nwo without defensiveness or partisanship.
> > "Well --- my guy suspended civil liberties, but the  *ther* guy got a
> > blowjob." Come on.
> >
>
> We are dealing with what is happening now because the Clinton Administration
> failed to act on numerous occasions when they could have captured or killed
> Bin Laden, but the Clinton Administration saw the whole thing in terms of
> criminal acts, not acts of war, and their responses over the years reflected
> that outlook. We don't need more of that.
>
>
> 

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