Guard and reserve deployments are still 12 months for Iraq and Afghanistan.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:22 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: The Iraq war sucks > > The deployments have been extended to 15 months for the Army. This is > so > that they can assure the soldiers coming home that they can at least > get 12 > months rest. I have been home since December of '05 and my unit is not > schedule to go anywhere soon. So I am getting plenty of time home, and > the > other NG and Reserve soldiers will get plenty of time home as well, so > this > really only affects the active duty troops. And if this guy has been > activated for 24 months, then they have to start paying him extra money > from > the time he was extended. That is $1,000.00 extra a month. I know > because we > had some guys with me in Iraq who were getting that. > > And if you want to talk about Precedent, let's look at the > Revolutionary > War, Civil War, Spanish War, War of 1812, WWI, WWII, and Korea. All of > these > wars the troops had to stay there the whole time unless they were > killed or > seriously wounded. We are talking about several years. Vietnam started > the > 12 months in country deal. Desert Storm was not long enough. Bosnia is > still > 12 months although that missing is winding down. > > Bruce > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:04 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: The Iraq war sucks > > Also, aren't these deployments going on longer than they ever have > before? There's something to be said for precedent. > > On 10/1/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What Bruce said is true, but I imagine they're going to have a heck > of > > a time getting people to sign up in the future. BTW, you don't think > > going without your normal paycheck for 2+ years would be enough for > > you to have to sell your house? > > > > > > On 10/1/07, J.J. Merrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Very well laid out and I agree totally. The reserves is just that, > The > > > RESERVES. You can and in this day in age will be deployed. > > > > > > I know it is sad but something tells me that regardless if he was > in > > > Iraq or not they probably couldn't afford the house to begin with. > > > > > > BTW I hate the war just as much as the next liberal but we > currently > > > have a volunteer army and nobody is forcing these people to sign- > up > > > with the heavy potential that you will get shipped to Iraq. > > > > > > J.J. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/1/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am assuming that her husband is in the Guard or Reserves. If > this is > > > > the case, I can't feel too sorry for her because her husband > joined > the > > > > military part time, knowing that he could be deployed at any > time. > > > > Whether or not it was before or after they bought their house is > not > > > > important. If they bought the house and then he joined the > military, > > > > then he should have taken into consideration that he could be > deployed > > > > at any time, how much they were going to pay him, and if that > would > not > > > > cover their expenses, then either move to a less expensive house > or > > > > don't join the military. If he was already in when the house was > bought, > > > > then once again they should have taken into consideration the > fact > that > > > > he could be deployed, how much was he going to make, and then buy > a > > > > house that they could afford in case this were to happen. > > > > > > > > When I bought my first house back in '99, I was not in the > National > > > > Guard. We bought a house well below what we qualified for because > I > did > > > > not want most of my civilian paycheck to go towards a house > payment. I > > > > thought that it would be a neat idea to actually have money left > over > to > > > > enjoy other things in life. Later on after we closed on the > house, I > > > > joined the National Guard. Before doing so, I looked up how much > a > > > > Sergeant gets paid for being activated. Not deployed in a combat > zone, > > > > just activated for whatever reason. I determined that I could > still > > > > afford my house with the Army pay so I joined the Guard. Had I > not > been > > > > able to, I would not have done this since I did not want to put > my > > > > family in Jeopardy financially. > > > > > > > > Now, if he is currently active duty, then how could he afford > this > house > > > > in the first place? You make less money at your base than you do > in a > > > > war zone. When you are deployed to a combat zone, you pick up > extra > > > > money (imminent danger pay, hazardous duty pay and family > separation > > > > allowance) as well as not having to pay taxes while you are in > the tax > > > > exclusion zone. This can be several hundred to over a thousand > dollars > a > > > > month, so he would actually be coming out ahead. > > > > > > > > Finally, if he is an IRR (Individual Ready Reserve. This is a > pool of > > > > service members who did their 2, 3 or 4 year hitch in the active > duty > > > > military, National Guard or Reserves, and are now on call for the > > > > remainder of their contract, which is 8 years total. If the US > needs > > > > them, they get called up to go back in). So again, if this is the > case, > > > > then he should have done what I said in the first paragraph of > this > > > > discussion. > > > > > > > > And before anyone goes on about 'if we were not at war in Iraq, > then > > > > none of this would be happening to this poor family'. That is > crap. No > > > > one knows for sure when and if we go to war. So again, if you are > in > the > > > > military, you need to make sure that your life is such that you > can > > > > handle being deployed for long periods of time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > > > > I do real estate virtual tours on the weekend. This weekend I > did a > > > > > moderately priced house. It was a very well kept property. > The > > > > > little girls room had a really cute mural of a countryside with > a > > > > > white rail fence and a life size pony painted on it. The > backyard > had > > > > > immaculately maintained landscaping along with a wooden > fort/swingset. > > > > > The rooms were all painted with nice colors, nothing too loud. > > > > > Everything about this house expressed the owner's pride in it. > > > > > > > > > > The woman who was selling it was doing so because she couldn't > afford > > > > > it anymore. Her husband has been in Iraq over 2 years now. > She's > > > > > unable to make up the difference in pay. Unfortunately, I > didn't > know > > > > > the situation this woman was in until afterward. I thought it > odd > > > > > that she seemed so emotional when I asked her if she painted > her > > > > > little girl's room. She seemed to be on the verge of tears > during > the > > > > > time I was there. > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, we're going to ship another $190 billion to > Iraq....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:243540 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
