>Let's remember, I do think those programs make this country more of a
>socialist state than a liberal Jeffersonian republic.

The so-called Jeffersonian republic you love so much allowed slavery, 
indentured servitude and people to starve in the streets. I figure that as a 
nation we've advanced a bit since then. If you want to go back to an 18th 
century ideal, well I am sure that there are countries like Burma etc who would 
be glad to help. Myself I prefer having a social safety net.

>
>So yes she fits in to the American Socialist stereo type for me very well
>thank you :)

What socialism? There is nothing in this country that even comes close to the 
British, German or Swedish approaches. When you look at a number of health 
related and longevity factors, the citizens of those so called evil socialist 
countries have a longer life span, are healthier throughout their lives, they 
also have more wealth on a per capita basis. and by a number of different 
measures are happier. Also the infant mortality rates are signficantly lower.  
And you cannot say that these nations are not democracies (they all have 
political participation rates far in excess of the miserable rates seen in the 
US).




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