So you're avoiding the question. Additionally, you're suggesting that it's a 
"crime against humanity" and unethical to propose a theory that there may be 
genetic differences with regards to intelligence between the races whether 
or not it may have a basis in fact (evolution). This is the very definition 
of political correctness, and a complete hypocrisy with regards to 
everything you've ever written about evolution.  The difference between what 
you say and what Dana says is that she doesn't deny that it might be true, 
she just suggests that the definitions aren't clear enough to make an 
observed decision.

And these studies... why  must there be "so called races"?  Why not a 
skin-tone/intelligence correlation?  How about a foot-size/intelligence 
correlation?  A skin-tone/penis size correlation?  You can make up any sort 
of study in the world as long as you have the correct definitions.

I'm not looking to vilify any race out there... just suggesting the 
eminently logical. There *are* known differences between races.  There's no 
reason to suggest that genetic differences, whatever they might be, don't 
apply to intelligence some some way.

- Matt



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: AYFKM?


> >So the real question is:  are you saying it's not probable, or it's
>>impossible?
>
>
> What I am saying is that the data does not support the hypothesis that 
> there is a racial basic for intellectual differences. Personally I think 
> that what differences that are attributable to so called racial 
> differences are more likely due to sampling characteristics.
>
> In other words you're going to have to have quite a few extremely 
> carefully controlled studies that consistently show a difference between 
> so called races. And the definitions of races will have to be very 
> carefully made too. The participants in one racial grouping cannot have 
> any background with any other racial groups. A controlled triplet study 
> would be best, with the triplets separated by birth and raised in very 
> different conditions. Then you make sure that you have equal number of 
> triplets from black, mongolian, caucasian (including indian from the 
> Indian subcontinent), amerind, and australian aboriginal racial groupings.
>
> After setting up and running such a set of studies, you would also need a 
> lot of money to ensure you can adequately defend yourself against ethics 
> and crimes against humanity charges.
>
> 

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