Jerry-
no, please don't shut up, thanks for the interesting additional info!!
-Ben


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:10 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Evolution and Education
> 
> 
> And they even share the video feed in real-time to other 
> aquariums/science centers.
> 
> At the time I was interested, it was 2 ATM channels (video 
> went back to the MBARI site from the other science centers to 
> answer crowd questions.)
> 
> And Robert Ballard and the Jason Project have done some 
> really amazing telepresence work with students over the past 
> few years.
> 
> (This is one area where computers and programmers can really 
> contribute to human knowledge)
> 
> Love this subject. Will shut up now.
> Jerry Johnson
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/02 01:46PM >>>
> neat stuff going on in CA -
> MBARI (Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute) has 
> ocean-going ships with
> deep submersible ROVs. Monterey Canyon, west of Monterey Bay, 
> goes down
> thousands of meters, but it's close enough to shore to be 
> accessible. In one
> of the theaters at the MBA they show films taken by the ROV 
> cameras. Way
> cool.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Eidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:35 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education
> > 
> > 
> > Discovery Science Channel feature this on "Science of the Deep".
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:04 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Evolution and Education
> > 
> > 
> > OOOH, did you see the ocean series on discovery channel where 
> > they showed
> > the life on the hydrothermal vents - was way cool.
> > 
> > Thank you Jerry, this sounds very interesting!!
> > 
> > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
> > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
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> > Anchorage, Alaska
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: Evolution and Education
> > 
> > 
> > > You should check out the latest research on chemosynthesis, 
> > which is being
> > driven by discoveries along and in the hydrothermal vent 
> > systems along the
> > ocean floor and in some of the geyser systems. Look for 
> > Archaea on a search
> > engine for the latest info. (for true geeks, try 
> > Chemoautotrophic Bacteria)
> > >
> > > These scientists feel they are a lot closer to explaining 
> > the origins of
> > "life" and the mechanisms that may have made it possible.
> > >
> > > Plus, tube worms are kool!
> > (http://www.sciam.com/news/050701/IMG/tubeworm200.jpg)
> > >
> > > Jerry Johnson
> > >
> > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/02 12:28PM >>>
> > > Actually, Larry, what it does is fill the holes that 
> > evolutionary theory
> > > hasn't filled - for example, I remember in biology class we 
> > made these
> > > little protein blobs in water, I forget what they are called.  But
> > > apparently they were a theory of how the first cell 
> formed - in the
> > > primoridal soup of amino acids and proteins these little 
> > protein things
> > that
> > > looked liked cells, contained the material for cells but 
> > weren't alive
> > were
> > > somehow made to live.  Scientists theorized that perhaps lightning
> > > electrified the proteins making life - but we haven't been able to
> > reproduce
> > > this, so there is no real evidence to show that lightning 
> > electrified the
> > > protein blobs and made them cells.  Other scientists 
> > theorized that a
> > > supreme being made the blobs cells.  There is no real 
> > evidence to show
> > this
> > > but its a theory.
> > >
> > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
> > > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
> > > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
> > > Anchorage, Alaska
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:13 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education
> > >
> > >
> > > > Its still creationism. Just the wolf wearing another sheepskin.
> > > >
> > > > I repeat where is the scientific evidence for it?
> > > >
> > > > larry
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:09 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Just to clarify, the article in question isn't creationists
> > > > > (in the strict
> > > > > sense of the word) vs. evolutionists, it's supporters of
> > > > > intelligent design
> > > > > vs. no-creator evolutionists.  A much finer parsing of
> > > > > theories than strict
> > > > > creationism against any form of evolution.
> > > > >
> > > > > H.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:52 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: Evolution and Education
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You could argue that view, but strict creationists would
> > > > > argue that the
> > > > > universe sprang from nothingness to completion in only 6
> > > > > days.  Rationaly,
> > > > > it makes no sense, but it's what some people believe.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to find someone with these beliefs and ask them
> > > > > to explain
> > > > > dinosaurs and all of the other scientific evidence that
> > > > > supports evolution.
> > > > > Maybe they have such explanations .. *shrug*
> > > > >
> > > > > Todd
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Rick Eidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:48 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can we look at the creation in versions just like a
> > > > > programmer would?
> > > > > > You build an application V1.0 Then you take away and add to
> > > > > it to create
> > > > > > V1.2 and so on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Couldn't evolution just be Gods Versions of man? If so then
> > > > > evolution and
> > > > > > Creation could be the same.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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