> You seem to be confusing proven reserves with production. To put that huge > number in perspective, Canada has about 1.2 trillion barrels locked away > in tar sands, but they only produce about 800000 barrels a day. According to > > http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/npr/publications/npr_strategic_significancev2.pdf2 > million barrels a day is a realistic upper limit, but I will grant you the > 5 million that is mentioned by the (obviously influenced by Shell) article > at > http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/magazines/fortune/Oil_from_stone.fortune/ > The NPR report is 2004, the rand is 2005, the Israeli method is from late 2006. As the first 2 reports do not take the new technology into account, I have to discount their estimates both for production and cost. As for Canada, we're talking different technologies and different technological needs. Reading up on tar sand shows that they need lots of water and energy to steam the oil out or use solvents. It also needs to be strip mined which has its own problems. Shale on the other hand can be mined using traditional methods and the Israeli method says that it is more cost effective than the currently used one.
> And that technology is far more realistic then the Israeli stuff that > requires 2 million tonnes on refinery waste to produce 3 million tonnes of > oil: where are you going to get refinery waste when everything operates on > shale in the first place? > Oil has to be refined in all cases so there will always be waste. Even if the result is something akin to high grade diesel it has to be refined to make it into gasoline. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:249208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
