On Dec 28, 2007 2:35 PM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam wrote: > > All lies. Gore and Hanson both admitted they exaggerated to create a > > fear so people would take them serious. Is that how science is > > supposed to work? > > > They are the ONLY TWO sources of Global Warming research? Does > exaggeration means that the data is completely false and tells the exact > opposite? For decades Spinach was a "super" source of iron due to a > misplaced decimal that exaggerated its iron content by a factor of 10. > After the correction, Spinach is still a good source of iron. > > Please explain to me how these two gentlemen are the end all be all of > all global warming research.
No Gore and Hansen have lied to scare the public into a panic. They exaggerated the studies Larry referred to. They aren't the only two, they are the loudest. Manhattan won't be under 20 feet of water. > > No, these: > > U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made > > Global Warming Claims in 2007 > > http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport > > > Are you debating that Global Warming is NOT happening ("It is all lies") > or that humans are not the cause of any of it? These are two completely > different arguments and I would like to know which one we are debating! > > http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/844 > > I'm debating the scientific proof of Man Made Global Warming and whether the debate is over or never happened. > One decenter of questionable qualifications does not a consensus break. > Again are we debating that ice is not disappearing or that man is not > the cause? I find it rather hard to look at National Geographic > photographs from 100 years ago compared to photographs of today and > easily see that a century ago there were a lot more glaciers in places > that have glaciers. Time to look at some current photos: http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh > > The new law I refer to is that man can change earth's climate. > > > I will give one that there can be much debate on how much effect humans > can have on climate. I think that absolutely no effect is just as > fringe as we are completely, 100% the cause of warming. I suspect the > truth is somewhere in the middle. > > So the questions in my mind are how much warmer it can get and when and > what we can do about it. Because whatever the cause - it can have > devastating effects on our civilization. Nobody wants to ignore the environment. I just think, as Kyoto has proven, if you let laws instead of industry dictate how to be more environmentally friendly, it'll backfire. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:249275 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
