On Dec 28, 2007 10:35 PM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm debating the scientific proof of Man Made Global Warming and > >whether the debate is over or never happened. > > How about man made versus man enhanced? How about "ok it is 100% natural > cycle", we are still not screwed how? > > You confound me when in one sentance you speak to "Man Made Global Warming" > and in another you say "Manhatten will not be under 20' of water". Which do > you want to debate? There is no such thing as global warming, never happend > before, never will again? Or is man possibly contributing to the speed of > change in this cycle?
Al Gore said in the movie Manhattan will be 20 feet underwater in 20 years because of man made global warming. All scientists say that's not possible. Why was it presented as science if it's not true? > >Time to look at some current photos: > >http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh > > Ok, I did and this is supposed to counter my point how? Yes the refreeze is faster than any time in history and this shows there's just as much ice now as there was in 1980. > http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=08&fd=28&fy=1980&sm=08&sd=28&sy=2007 > > Directing me a site that can easily show a significant percentage of the ice > gone is telling how? Why did you change it to August? That's what Gore does, he looks for one point in time that supports his theory and presents it as proof. Look at December 2007 and compare it to any other December. If the earth was irreversibly warming how did so much ice return? > You are a hard person to have a discussion with, your points jump all over > the place. 5 point, 5 jumps. In this last reply you brought up whether Global Warming is happening at all, whether man can be a contributing factor, and what would be the best way to counter our contribution. Which of these three radically different points represent your position? No Global Warming? Global Warming possible, but man has no effect? Global Warming possible but current initiatives are not the best way to counter man's contribution to it? We need to study and debate IF man is contributing. We need to study and debate IF the earth is irreversibly warming or as some say the warming has just ended and now we're entering a cooling trend. Minimizing pollution is always a positive thing and we should do what we can, except buying carbon offsets or anything else that makes Al Gore richer. It's not and a, b or c choice. It's d, more information is needed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:249467 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
