On Jan 31, 2008 8:54 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I wish that were true but it's not.  Christians are constantly told
> that they cannot worship, cannot express their faith and cannot follow
> the express commands that they are given in the Bible.


They are? My entire family is Catholic. I was raised Catholic. Every sunday,
they hauled me off to church, where we "worshiped" free and clear. To this
day, they worship freely, every sunday. My parents go to church every single
day....freely.

How is your freedom to worship being repressed??????


> At the same
> time Moslems, Pagans and Aethists are allowed to further their agendas
> in public schools and government organizations at every turn.


Why must religion have an "agenda"? That is what really bothers me. I'm fine
with just about any religion in the world, until they turn to me and say "we
need to save YOU too!"

Wait, time out. No thanks, i don't care what your ancient holy text
says...leave me OUT of it.

Moreover, Christians are forced to accept and even embrace
> philosophies that run counter to our teachings all the time.


When your teachings infringe upon the basic human rights that are afforded
us by simply being citizens of a FREE country...then yes, as an American,
you might have to accept that.

I think that's a good...a VERY good...thing.

Issues
> such as homosexuality, abortion and even finances are shoved down our
> throats and if we do not willingly accept the "popular view" of the we
> face personal or even legal harassment.


What you call the "popular" view, we call the secular law of our free land.
If a dude wants to pork another dude, that doesn't hurt me in anyway...so
why should I restrict their freedoms in a FREE society???

You should never face personal harassment for your views (unless you bring
it on yourself), but if your religious views cause you to obstruct our
freedoms in some way...then legal harassment could certainly be called for.


> If we speak out against it we
> are considered at least "mostly harmless" and at most "religious
> nuts."


Depends on what you mean by "speak out against it". If you tell me that your
religious belief is that homosexuality is wrong....that's one thing. Good
deal. Got it. No problem.

If, instead, you are trying to bring about legislation that will infringe
upon the basic human rights of a gay person living in a free society....then
we've got a problem.

(Or worse, you want to teach your creation myth in my science class :)

So no, I'm not free from your gods.
>

Yes, you are, unless you consider my "Gods" the inalienable rights of every
citizen to live in a free society.

-- 
Medical language won't ever help to shape this
If that mind is just as frail as the frame


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