ah. that's what i love about it. :) christopher olive cto, vp of web development, vp it security atnet solutions, inc. 410.931.4092 http://www.atnetsolutions.com
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 5:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question I dont know either python or perl, but I've seen the syntax for both. Python looks very nice and object oriented, while at first glance perl looks like VB for Unix. Blech! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Olive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question > boo python. :) perl comes with the standard "server" install of RH 7.2 > > christopher olive > cto, vp of web development, vp it security > atnet solutions, inc. > 410.931.4092 > http://www.atnetsolutions.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:27 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > > or use python it should come with rh > > > > Bill Wheatley > Director of Development > AEPS INC > www.aeps.com > Macromedia ColdFusion Alliance Consulting Partner > Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Developer > 954-472-6684 X303 > ICQ: 417645 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Olive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:24 PM > Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > > > write a shell/perl script and make it a cron job. > > > > christopher olive > > cto, vp of web development, vp it security > > atnet solutions, inc. > > 410.931.4092 > > http://www.atnetsolutions.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Haggerty, Michael A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:09 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > > > > > Alright, everyone's point has been taken and I think I see the light. > > > > There is value in the machine whether it be as an SMTP server or a > doorstop. > > > > > > As I have been honest about the transaction, I have no moral culpability > in > > selling these machines. > > > > On another note: does anyone know of a decent automated network monitoring > > tool that will run under Linux on a 486? I am looking for something that > > will ping servers and hardware every so often to tell the admin if the > > network is up or not. > > > > I promised someone I would ask. > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greenwood, Erin E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:02 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > > > > > I had 2 486/33s and a 486/66. I gave away the nicer of the 33s to old > family > > friends and they were thrilled because not only was it nicer than what > they > > had but it also came with a copy of WordPerfect (UGH!). So everyone was > > happy. Now I just use the 486/66. Someday I hope to get a decent computer > > but it is not at the top of the list right now. > > > > In other words, sometimes anything is better than nothing. > > > > : ) > > > > e > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Corrigan > > To: CF-Community > > Sent: 3/22/2002 2:01 PM > > Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > > > You shouldn't feel guilty for other people's shortcomings. They're > > adults and can make their own decisions. If you mislead them then you > > should feel guilty but it doesn't sound like that's what you're doing. > > Give them the correct and complete information. Answer any question > > they have honestly and truthfully and them let them make their own > > decision. > > > > > > Michael Corrigan > > Programmer > > Endora Digital Solutions > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > > Lombard, IL 60148 > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > > 630/627-5255 Fax > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Haggerty, Michael A. > > To: CF-Community > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:05 AM > > Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > > > > > I had the same mentality for a while, but now it feels like I am > > exploiting > > other's weaknesses. > > > > Some people cannot help but purchase computers in the same way > > alcoholics > > cannot help but drink. Feels like I am part of the problem... > > > > Grrr... > > M > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:54 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > > > > > Sell more. > > If someone wants to buy a doorstop, well then, sell them a doorstop. > > :) > > > > Erika > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >>|-----Original Message----- > > >>|From: Haggerty, Michael A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >>|Sent: 22 March 2002 16:52 > > >>|To: CF-Community > > >>|Subject: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > >>| > > >>| > > >>|I have been working on a technology refresh at my daughter's > > school, and > > >>|have come into possession of a lot of 486 computers. If I did > > >>|not take them, > > >>|they were headed for the dumpster. > > >>| > > >>|At first, I started putting slackware on the ones I took home, > > >>|and setting > > >>|them up to do some basic word processing / telnet. I thought I > > >>|could donate > > >>|them to needy families through my church. > > >>| > > >>|But then my bedroom became filled up with old monitors, > > >>|keyboards, etc., and > > >>|my dog began eating the mice cables. So I started asking around > > >>|and seeing > > >>|if anyone wanted the old 486s. I get them in increments, as new > > >>|technology > > >>|is brought into the school. > > >>| > > >>|One day, Sean, a friend of mine, says he will take one. Mark, the > > guy who > > >>|sits next to him, say he'll take one too. This was the last one > > >>|I had, so, > > >>|jokingly, I say "Okay, I will give it to the highest bidder". > > >>|Mark says ten > > >>|dollars, Sean says twenty, and the price war ends at $30 with > > >>|Mark waiting > > >>|one week. > > >>| > > >>|Now I am being contacted by friends of friends. I am up to $40 a > > machine, > > >>|$60 with monitor, and have already made $500 off the deal. > > >>| > > >>|I am donating the money right back to the church (I get the > > >>|computers from a > > >>|Catholic school) but I wonder: is it morally wrong to sell obsolete > > >>|technology, even to those who believe they need it? I am convinced > > the > > >>|'need' is imagined and that these machines are not going to do much > > for > > >>|anyone. I tell my 'clients' that, but they respond by asking if > > they can > > >>|pick it up themselves. > > >>| > > >>|M > > >>| > > >>| > > >>| > > >>| > > >>| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
