yeah, I guess that's true..... On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually in many states it's only illegal for those under 21 to purchase > alcohol, and drink without parental consent. Many don't have a problem > so long as there is parental consent. > > G Money wrote: > > You know, it's interesting. There are instances where the laws have bent > to > > accommodate religious services. > > > > The big one that comes to mind is the Eucharistic ceremony for > Christians. > > Christian children start participating in the Eucharistic ceremony when > they > > are in about 2nd grade. At that point, if they want a little wine > during > > church, all they gotta do is hold out their hands... > > > > Giving alcohol, in any capacity, to a minor, is otherwise against the > law. > > > > Now I think we can all agree that the practice is not harmful and it is > > reasonable for the law to bend in this instance. But now that the can of > > worms is open, who gets to decide what is reasonable and what is not? > How > > much bending should the law do to accommodate increasingly extreme > religious > > rites? > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Michael Dinowitz < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> We've already done so. Biblically you're allowed multiple wives. This > >> practice has been prohibited to conform to the social norms of Europe > and > >> later America. At the moment I can't think of any Jewish laws that > would > >> conflict with social laws. Just about all of our laws are > >> personal/communal > >> ones with just about no impact on society. The only conflicts that have > >> come > >> up in the past are ritual slaughtering and circumcision. Time and again > >> it's > >> been shown that ritual slaughtering is more humane than the standard > bolt > >> to > >> the head. The practice is also proof against such things as mad cow > >> disease. > >> Circumcision is a social norm in most places so the only conflict is > when > >> people try to ban it, but that's not just a Jewish issue. > >> Bottom line is that we don't have that big a social footprint that has > to > >> be > >> modified, and me being available to the lists on a Saturday is not a > law. > >> :) > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:36 AM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> wrote: > >> > >>>> I agree. Now lets enforce that. > >>> So, Michael, just out of curiosity, what practice of your own religion > >>> would you be willing to give up for the sake of conforming to this > >>> (American) society's laws? > >>> > >>> And would you do so quietly? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> will > >>> > >>> "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; > >>> and that would just be unacceptable." > >>> - Carrie Fisher > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:257756 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
