Hell, cfexpress (was that it?) was a free version that was stripped of 
some tags that Allaire had.  It was how I learned CF back in the 4/4.5 
days, and had the opposite effect.  Instead of simply costing them 
sales, I'd say it expanded their developer base, and ended up 
contributing to their increased sales and market share.  Without that 
free product I'd have still been writing Perl and probably gone to asp 
eventually.  Instead I got to see the ease of use of CF without having 
to know all the advanced stuff that I take for granted now, and found it 
to be something I wanted to learn more about.

God I miss Allaire.

Jim Davis wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:21 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a
>> bit.
>>
>> I'm pretty certain that you can set up very, very similar environments
>> with
>> asp and asp.net, but that's not my point.  My point was why limit
>> access to
>> the developer edition to two ip address.  Wouldn't 10 or even 20 be
>> sufficient.  Is Adobe afraid that someone might run a cf site on the
>> developer edition if they allowed 20 unique ip addresses?  Do they
>> think
>> that someone who had a web site with 20 unique visitors would spring
>> for the
>> professional version because that limitation is there?
> 
> While I've been bit by that limit, annoyingly, I'm also not sure how to do
> it any better.
> 
> A huge number of Internet companies have less than 10 employees... any limit
> like that would be a "free pass" for Intranet work (not a bad idea, Adobe!)
> 
> At the same time I work for a huge company and often would have liked to
> present development work to more than 20 people.
> 
> Basically any number you pick is going to be legitimately too small for
> somebody and the larger you make it the more "Sales" will be lost since
> smaller companies will slip in under the limit.
> 
> All that said I think that Adobe should provide a free edition or
> non-commercial license of some kind (even if you had to register to use it).
> As you've pointed out (and I totally agree with) there are more people that
> would use a cheaper tech than CF than there are people that would buy CF to
> do overcome the limits.  Decisions should always be made, in my opinion,
> prioritizing an expansion of the user base.
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 
> 

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