> RoMunn wrote:
>  Iraqi democracy was always going to be produced from the ground up.

As far as I've been saying ... maybe you too, but certainly not the
Bush Administration.  They have always put 100% of success into first
Chalabi and now al-Maliki.

I think my first emails about the subject said that democracy was
started local and it was my original reason why we shouldn't have gone
in: we can't fix them - they need to fix themselves but they haven't
wanted to for 1500 years.  Therefore we'd essentially be putting our
military under Iraqi control - and so we have.

So what know, and Bush didn't, is that democracy always starts from
the ground up.  What's new here is how the government in the Middle
East flows from that as compared to here.

And what that shows us is that we have no fecking idea what the feck
we're doing.  Not a great way to lead a "war".

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