>I love how opponents of the current policy belittle Iraqis and Mulsims in
>general with this sort of invective. Europe was a smoldering fire of petty
>political, tribal and ethnic animosities for at least 3,000 years prior to
>this century. Yet somehow Europeans (and by extensions Americans, Canadians,
>and other spawn of European colonization) are more capable of rational
>self-interest than those poor, backward Muslims. Or is it just the Arab
>Muslims who are incapable of civilization? I'm confused, please enlighten
>me.

That is actually part of it, the Arab world never had an enlightenment, 
reformation or counter reformation. Also while we were a smoldering fire of 
petty political, tribal and ethnic animosities the Arabs had one of the 
greatest civilizations. Damascus and Baghdad were the hubs of a very advanced 
civilization that produced some of the greatest literary and artistic works we 
know. 

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