As far as I know, the military times is not sponsored by the military 
but rather from advertisers and subscribers like me, and the source of 
the story is the AP, which last I checked has nothing to do with the 
military at all. I would bet money that there are other studies going 
on, but the gist of the story is that although folks who enter with 
moral waivers tend to get in more trouble, they are also better 
soldiers/marines in other respects. I doubt this military will ever be 
like the one in the 70's. That military had draftees who did not have a 
choice. These men and women do have a choice.

Being a veteran of the Army since the early 80's I can tell you that the 
Army has always had people who use drugs and drink in excess, and they 
always will. I can also tell you from personal experience that the 
soldiers that worked in my section that had run-in's with the law prior 
to going in, including one soldier who had to either join the military 
or go to jail, they were some of the hardest working soldiers that ever 
worked for me. I am one of them, I had a felony conviction as a teenager 
and was still promoted above my peers and earned more awards than most 
of the soldiers who never got in any trouble, I was even busted once. 
Yes we can party hard . We party hard but we also work just as hard to 
get the job done and done well.

Bruce

Larry Lyons wrote:
> I'd like to see some independent verification of that, given that the Army 
> Times is a military sponsored paper.
>
> I found this bit interesting:
> "The information has not been released to the public, but the AP obtained a 
> copy of the study.
>
> The statistics show that recruits with criminal records or other drug and 
> alcohol issues have more discipline problems than those without records. 
> Those recruits also are a bit more likely to drop out of the Army because of 
> alcohol."
>
> So they get busted more often, are pain in the ass, insubordinate and more 
> likely to be drunk. That's the new army for you.
>
> Sounds like the military from the 70's a bit.
>
>   
>> So there has been a lot of debate lately about the Army and Marine's use 
>> of moral waivers to attract more people into their ranks. A lot of 
>> pundits say that the military is lowering their standards to fill the 
>> ranks and that  that could cause problems down the road. So the military 
>> did a three year study and found that although recruits that have a 
>> criminal record or a record of drug/alcohol abuse tend to get in more 
>> trouble, they also take their military service more seriously, get 
>> promoted faster and perform better in combat. Related story here:
>>
>> http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/04/ap_MilitaryWaivers_052908/ 
>>     
>
> 

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