This is just getting me more and more pissed off. I know a blogger that was invited to this. After the "testimony" he asked several members of this board if they would sign affidavits about their stories and not one would do it. Some more info here:
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/03/winter-soldiers.html http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=1346 BTW, Thus Spake Ortner (Ortner being our former battalion commanders name, the penguin, a real douche and as useless an officer as I've ever come across) Was a squad leader in my platoon. I know him well, we spent a year in Afghanistan together, and he stayed in my hooch on Bagram for a while. They wrote this one him: John Michael Turner (Burlington, VT - fourth from right) tears off medals and tosses them to loud applause from crowd. Showed videos of Marines celebrating effective use of firepower and pictures of destroyed buildings (nothing about casualties). Shot people with .50 cal. Troops had no respect for dead bodies as a matter of policy. Enjoys showing grotesque pictures that have nothing to do with the panel. I shot a guy I call the fat man. When I didnt kill him with the first round, I shot him again. Was congratulated for first kill - was promised a four day pass if he could kill someone with a knife. He has pictures of his confirmed kills (were up to number three - a man on bicycle). When reporters were embedded, ROE changed drastically - by the book. The implication is that the media isnt getting the whole story. Some blather about a bracelet and his choking hand which was somehow part of the ROE. Shows video of destroying a minaret because we were angry and taking out our aggression. There are many more stories that I dont have time to tell them all. Im sorry for the hate and destruction Ive inflicted on other people. Im no longer the monster that I once was. Further, the people running the event couldn't confirm dates of service, units or awards on any attendees. Gruss Gott wrote: > WARNING: probably not safe for work and has some graphic content > > In the spring of 2007, a conference was held on the outskirts of > Washington, DC. Entitled Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan, it > hearkened back to the Winter Soldier testimonies held three decades > ago during the Vietnam War. Of the testimonies we filmed, this one, by > Iraq War vet Jon Michael Turner, former Marine with the 3rd Battalion, > 8th Marines, was the most compelling and intense. > > Watch the video below: > http://newsproject.org/videos/21 > > I guess this explains the record high suicide rate. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:260954 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
