Learn something new every day! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zones
I'm glad that both parties are equally hypocritical in the use of these things. It takes a pretty haughty view of the 1st Amendment to say, "you can exercise your freedom of speech and public assembly... over... there." That is my read on what the "Free Speech Zones" are. However you're comparing apples and oranges. The Free Speech Zones were/are a calculated attempt to "corral" protesters so the media could ignore them. My thought is that this is also the organizer's attempt to protect their own freedom of assembly and speech, since most protesters these days seem to equate freedom of speech with freedom to disrupt. Before you say it, I know about the grannies that were arrested for holding a sign outside the zone. Those are outside the scope of my assumptions. What the Obama supporters are doing is more akin to disrupting and denying the freedom of speech of others. They are taking calculated actions and falsely accusing those who hold opposite views of violating a services TOS. This is the same as removing their freedom of speech altogether until the false accusations are cleared up. Hatton On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is of course of much more concern than "free speech zones." > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Looks to me like Obama supporters want to stifle dissent... >> >> >> ====== >> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1182 >> >> Yesterday, Americans celebrated Independence Day - and I got to spent too >> much of the day loafing around paging lazily through a whole bunch of more >> or less nutty political sites. >> >> One of things I noticed was the marked difference in treatment accorded a >> particularly nasty little controversy around whether or not google was >> purposely shutting down anti-Obama sites on its blogger.com network. >> >> Here's the salient bit from what appears to have been the first blast of the >> whistle - by Warner >> Huston<http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/06/29/google-shuts-down-anti-obama-sites-on-its-blogger-platform> >> >> It looks like Google has officially joined the Barack Obama campaign and >> decided that its contribution would be to shut down any blog on the Google >> owned Blogspot.com blogging system that has an anti-Obama message. Yes, it >> sure seems that Google has begun to go through its many thousands of blogs >> to lock out the owners of anti-Obama blogs so that the noObama message is >> effectively squelched. >> >> A bit after writing this he added this update above his original story: >> >> Update: Perhaps it isn't google, but Obamaniacs taking advantage of google's >> faulty sytem. A commenter explains: >> >> The problem with blogger is that a group of people with an ax to grind can >> report any blog as spam and after enough complaints, it's automatically >> suspended until a real live human being can get around to examining it. If >> enough complaints are registered with blogger, you might get a response >> within 5 days but it takes a concerted effort. This is a huge problem with >> blogger and something google needs to get a handle on. >> >> Regardless who is at fault, this shutting down of free speech is >> disturbing. >> >> As it turns out the person who wrote the comment appears to have been >> correct: blogger.com, and many of its righter users, seem to have been the >> victims of a co-ordinated attempt to silence perceived opponents. >> >> At the personal level the resemblence to groklaw's policy of presuring >> editors to shut up writers critizing them struck me as "a >> birds-of-a-feather" problem, but what was actually most interesting about >> the whole mess was that it produced an uproar in the right wing blogosphere >> but went largely unmentioned, and certainly uncondemned, in the much more >> populous liberal blogosphere. >> >> The story made headlines, for example, at >> hotair<http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/30/now-just-imagine-blogger-was-the-fec>but >> appears >> to have gone >> unmentioned<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=blogspot+google+shutdown+anti-obama+sites++%28site:huffingtonpost.com+OR+site:moveon.org+OR+site:dailykos.com%29&start=30&sa=N>on >> dailykos, the huffingtonpost, and >> moveon.org. >> >> The specific issue is unimportant to most technology managers, but in more >> general terms this is a problem affecting all of cloud computing: trust your >> business to an Amazon, a Microsoft, or a Google, and you become vulnerable >> to a wholly new kind of denial of service attack - one that can be triggered >> by essentially unrelated employee actions or opinions and hold your entire >> business hostage to the service provider's business processes. >> >> "Five days" with "a concerted effort" is the guy's description of google's >> remediation process - and if you don't think a business contract on >> something like email will ever be treated the same way: think about your >> business relationship with monopoly suppliers from telcos to Microsoft. >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:263405 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
